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Leet Eriksson 22:06 12-13-2004
how about an original fantasy theme for a change?

I know to some it may sound bad, but i think it would be good, i doubt anyone would be pissed about historical accuracy any more

But anyways its highly likely we'll have an expansion for RTW first, and hopefully the next total war will be a dark-ages to medieval ages spanning asia, europe and africa. It would be awesome, but probably too ambitious..

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frogbeastegg 23:28 12-13-2004
Arena is no-TW. Moved to entrance hall.

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Jacque Schtrapp 00:21 12-14-2004
Redo Shogun. Remain true to the original concept yet introduce the new gfx engine and make a diplomacy model that really truly works ala Civ. I'd worship at that alter any day.

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Nelson 00:53 12-14-2004
Oi! Such an orphan this thread is!

A Shogun redo would be fine by me.

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m4rt14n 02:13 12-14-2004
The Movie "Alexander" was crap beyond reason. Sorry bout all yall fans out there, but I'd rather watch the History Channel Special on Alexander, or the Discovery Channel ones, rather than succumbing to the all mighty turd of a mumbled, disorganized, scenes without plot that Hollywood called a movie.

I'm guessing the game would prolly be the same thing, heh. I'm sticking with RTW even with all them bugs for now... sadly

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Pericles 02:27 12-14-2004
Maybe a "Greek: Total War" might be able to use the current RTW engine.

With tweaks to the engine there could be the "Age of Revolution: Total War" spanning time period of 1700-1900.

Then there is always "Age of Empires: Total War" - giving us a world map with discovery of the new world, being able to play Asian countries as well as European. . .

A "Lord of the Rings: Total War" - look how well the movies and books did

Personally, I think the possibilitie are endless.

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m4rt14n 02:46 12-14-2004
Civilization: Total War :drools:

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Paul Peru 14:33 12-14-2004
Originally Posted by faisal:
how about an original fantasy theme for a change?

I know to some it may sound bad, but i think it would be good, i doubt anyone would be pissed about historical accuracy any more
Sacrileguous as it is, I agree. Fantasy material is great to take break from the realism of RL, and you don't need a "big franchise" to have an interesting setting. (+If you go Tolkien, someone will still complain about lacking "realism"/authenticity)
I hope Hoggy manages to finish his Blue Lotus mod for RTW... I'm not convinced that the moddability allows for the mod to be "total" enough, though....

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ICantSpellDawg 17:56 12-14-2004
i say that the revolutionary game will be napoleonic total war and the expansion to that will be civil war total war

the next one though is anyones guess - something based on china would be cool though

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HopAlongBunny 19:08 12-14-2004
I think ChinaTotalWar would be incredible

Napoleonic period would be my first choice though. My limited knowledge is more complete for this period. The interaction of infantry/cavalry/artillery is just made for the TW engine; the diplomacy and naval model would completely tank though.

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Clips 21:11 12-14-2004
I say bring on world war 2 and 1 ^^ that would be awesome...... planes included lol.

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mfberg 21:29 12-14-2004
Originally Posted by Clips:
I say bring on world war 2 and 1 ^^ that would be awesome...... planes included lol.
Sorry, but the planes couldn't be included, we shall have to autoresolve the Battle of Britain, and the entire naval war in the Pacific.

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Lechev 17:07 12-15-2004
An idea of China:Totalwar is good. But in ancient China, it is not unusual for individual opposing generals to duke it out in 1v1 melee combat before the real clashes of the armie starts.

If that sort of duel can be included ( maybe in kinda 1st person combat style ) would really add a new dimension in playing totalwar series. Juz my 2 cents.

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Rurik the Chieftain 21:42 12-15-2004
Three words: America:Total War. It could go all the way from the revolution to the Civil War. I can picture a general giving the famous battle phrase "Don't fire 'till you see the whites of their eyes!" and the men all going "YES SIR!" and patriots marching against the redcoats in that silly line formation so they can stand 20 feet apart and mow each other down. I just think it's a really cool idea. "In my game, I had Robert E. Lee bribed to fight for the union!"
vs

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King Yngvar 02:43 12-16-2004
1) Start in year 900/911

2) Start in year 793

3) Start in year 493

4) Start in year 430

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Mikeus Caesar 15:50 12-18-2004
From what i can see, the next TW (if there is one), will prolly be napoleonic or china. The china one sounds good, but the napoleonic one would have gunpowder and an epic war involving the world.

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Pericles 17:20 12-18-2004
Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar:
From what i can see, the next TW (if there is one), will prolly be napoleonic or china. The china one sounds good, but the napoleonic one would have gunpowder and an epic war involving the world.
Of the two I would like to see a Napoleonic: Total War. That would be awesome.

Even so, the gunpowder and cannon aspects alone would allow modders to cover some very interesting wars in the 18-19th centuries.

Cheers!

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ivoignob 04:04 12-26-2004
American: Total War is a cool idea but personally i'd like to play an Ottoman: Total War game, where the ottoman empire is at its strongest and challenges south east of europe (the two sieges of vienna!) northern africa, then becomes weak when not acting as fast as the europeans with bulliding colonies etc....

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soibean 05:39 12-26-2004
I think a few of the ideas you guys said sounded good
fantasy total war
china total war
a dark age total war would probably be a mix of what is already out there though wouldnt it?...
why not an Aztec/Maya/Incan etc total war? Thats a totally differnet time period/tech tree. If it is possible I think thatd be cool
You could have the time period ranging from the middle of their rise to power to maybe the first europeans coming in? that way a few gunpowder units are involved but nothing extreme.

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avatar 16:06 01-02-2005
China: Total War. After a Hun expansion for RTW.

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Pericles 14:06 01-05-2005
I think it would be kind of interesting to see a map of Asia and Pacific.

The player could play as any Asian power.

I also wonder if one day we will see a world map for Total War?

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the tokai 22:51 01-05-2005
They should do fantasy: total war, but completely made up and not tolkien based so that no one will be able to whine about "historical" accuracy.

But seriously something based on China and India would be nice, especially since there aren't too many (good) games focussing on that part of the world.

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patish 14:34 01-12-2005
How about native american tribes ?



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*Ringo* 17:23 01-12-2005
The loose ends in the naval code would suggest a time period including rendered naval battles!

...just speculation but i'd go with the Napoleonic era.

*Ringo*

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Pericles 17:52 01-12-2005
Originally Posted by *Ringo*:
The loose ends in the naval code would suggest a time period including rendered naval battles!

...just speculation but i'd go with the Napoleonic era.

*Ringo*
I would be happy even if they enhanced the naval battle segment by including strategy cards you could play that would use various naval maneuvers.

And of course, the level of commander and his skill would also play a part.

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Dominic 18:16 01-14-2005
How about Myths: Total War? Gods and deities duke it out in the time before human civilizations (borrowing a concept from M$). This might be a better alternative than the suggested Fantasy: Total War, since history, real or imagined, forms the background of Total War games.

Comedy Options:
Fallout: Total War - All-out nuclear war has reduced all of humanity to barbarism and savagery! It's up to you to rediscover lost technologies and warfare tactics on irradiated wastelands full of mutated creatures! I bet those giant scorpions will make soldiers in phalanxes work properly!

Internet: Total War - Wage war on the Information Super Highway! Take down rival servers with DDoS's! Build firewalls! Deploy spywares! Create Internet catchphrases and memes that will stand the test of time!

Sports: Total War 200X - Create armies of sports fans! Build elite Fan Groups such as the Manchester United Soccer Hooligans, or the Angry NHL Ninjas of 2005! Watch them clash on stadium grounds in real-time battles involving thousands of participants! Almost 100,000 spoken lines of wry commentary included!

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Sir William Wallace 15:25 01-25-2005
After this RTW debacle, they shouldnt make anymore games

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RollingWave 17:09 01-26-2005
I'm pretty good with Chinese history (being chinese XD )

Anyway.. the best time line scheme for a China: total war would probably be the Spring and autumn period all the way up to Qin's unification of China.

Reasoning...
1. enough factions: there were several hundred small kingdoms... and even counting major kingdoms there were still more than a dozen.

2. enough variety: the different kingdoms had a good variety of warfare.

3. it was of all other chinese periods, the greatest period of change and development and invention and creativity.

4. the different thoughts fighting for influence : the various schools had many different influence, no other chinese age really saw this, this could work like religions in MTW/RTW for the various bonuses.

etc.. this would work better than the 3 kingdoms era imho.. which is far more individual focused and didn't last that long either

Another possible era would be the era of the Mongol invasion where u had 4 factions involved (and u can throw in other central asian faction i guess)

Of course redoing STW MTW on the now better engine is pretty cool too.

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jerby 18:44 01-28-2005
is it me or are the only ones that want american: total war. the americans? chauvanistic?

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Pericles 21:58 01-28-2005
Originally Posted by jerby:
is it me or are the only ones that want american: total war. the americans? chauvanistic?
Come, come...

Let's steer clear of this type of thing, shall we?

I think we are all interested in seeing a variety of settings for the TW game...

Whether the game is set in Asia or Europe or America...

After all - the game's the thing...

Cheers!

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