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HopAlongBunny 19:08 12-14-2004
I think ChinaTotalWar would be incredible

Napoleonic period would be my first choice though. My limited knowledge is more complete for this period. The interaction of infantry/cavalry/artillery is just made for the TW engine; the diplomacy and naval model would completely tank though.

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Clips 21:11 12-14-2004
I say bring on world war 2 and 1 ^^ that would be awesome...... planes included lol.

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mfberg 21:29 12-14-2004
Originally Posted by Clips:
I say bring on world war 2 and 1 ^^ that would be awesome...... planes included lol.
Sorry, but the planes couldn't be included, we shall have to autoresolve the Battle of Britain, and the entire naval war in the Pacific.

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Lechev 17:07 12-15-2004
An idea of China:Totalwar is good. But in ancient China, it is not unusual for individual opposing generals to duke it out in 1v1 melee combat before the real clashes of the armie starts.

If that sort of duel can be included ( maybe in kinda 1st person combat style ) would really add a new dimension in playing totalwar series. Juz my 2 cents.

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Rurik the Chieftain 21:42 12-15-2004
Three words: America:Total War. It could go all the way from the revolution to the Civil War. I can picture a general giving the famous battle phrase "Don't fire 'till you see the whites of their eyes!" and the men all going "YES SIR!" and patriots marching against the redcoats in that silly line formation so they can stand 20 feet apart and mow each other down. I just think it's a really cool idea. "In my game, I had Robert E. Lee bribed to fight for the union!"
vs

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Watchman 00:37 12-16-2004
"...but then the damn injuns pillaged Washington behind my back !"


IMHO the basic military paradigm (ie. get mown down in close order...) was too utterly stupid to for make good TW game, but whatever.

China sounds good, especially as it has such an enormous depth of military history. And just about every dynasty used different methods and equipement than its precessadors... Plus then there's all the odd stuff they had, like those paddleship river fleets or the big polearms that were all the rage among heavy cavalry at one point, or the chariots they used before they caught up with the stirrup...

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King Yngvar 02:43 12-16-2004
1) Start in year 900/911

2) Start in year 793

3) Start in year 493

4) Start in year 430

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Jacque Schtrapp 04:54 12-16-2004
Originally Posted by Rurik the Chieftain:
Three words: America:Total War.

Half the fun of the total war series is dealing with the strengths and weaknesses of the various cultures in the game. There simply aren't enough factions to justify a TW game based around either the Revolutionary of Civil wars in US history. If it becomes necessary to do a TW game in the gunpowder era (and I seriously question the viability) then it would once again be necessary to turn to europe this time to the Napoleonic era. Hmm... seems there has almost always been lots of different people in europe eager and willing to slaughter each other.


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Slon 05:47 12-16-2004
It would be interesting to see early America. For example, start with America being a weak (a few permanently allied factions like the Roman factions) country fighting against different Native American factions (some were allied while others were not). Then, once all of America is counquered by the new American settlers, start a Civil war!

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Sir Toma of Spain 08:11 12-16-2004
Originally Posted by Master Zen:
I think a Totalwar series based on China would be awesome. Has anyone here ever read Romance of the Three Kingdoms or played the games based on this wonderful Chinese epic, like Dynasty Warriors and the other KOEI ROTK series? For those who are not familiar, China experienced a civil war on a massive scale after the fall of the Han dynasty in the second to third century AD. The whole empire split into various factions under feudal warlords. Gradually, three men established supremacy in three parts of the country (hence Three Kingdoms); they were Cao Cao in the north, Sun Quan in the south, and Liu Bei in the west. Not only is the story compelling and epic, but the Totalwar people could make the battles REALLY interesting. For instance, the strategy of the various generals in the Three Kingdoms is detailed throughout the epic and is quite brilliant. There are ambushes, fire attacks, city assaults, the cutting off of supplies, the use of naval and marine forces, the use of floods to drown enemies, and myriads of ruses. One particular stratagem is famous and I shall account for it here to give you a sense of what I mean: Zhuge Liang, the adviser to Liu Bei, was given the task of delivering 100,000 arrows in three days time to the armies of Sun Quan. If he failed, he would suffer the death penalty. Obviously, he was not going to be able to make 100,000 arrows in three days. Instead, on the third day, when the weather was extremely foggy, he borrowed twenty ships and attached many bundles of straw to them, to give the impression of a huge landing force. He used these twenty ships and took them close to the enemy's naval base. Since it was foggy, and the ships gave the impression of a large force waiting in ambush, the enemy commander ordered his soldiers to oppose Zhuge Liang's force by shooting arrows. The discharge of arrows was immense, and the twenty ships, with their bundles of straw, managed each to catch over 5000 to 6000 arrows. Thus, by a small effort, he had managed to steal 100,000 arrows from the enemy which could then be shot back at the enemy. Besides exciting battles and subtle strategy, the diplomacy could be quite intricate as it was during the Three Kingdoms period. The warlords had to carefully balance alliances in order to succeed. I would say more, but I want to know what others think. I have thought long about such a Totalwar game based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and each time I imagine it I feel like buying it (haha). Another great possibility, with China as the map, would be Totalwar in the time of the Warring States. This period is earlier than the Three Kingdoms era, and was again a civil war following the collapse of the Zhou dynasty.
I reckon that this would be a great idea and would also be great fun to play as although there would really only be three factions but otherwise it would be great
Good idea Master Zen

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Byzantine Prince 11:03 12-16-2004
How about Africa: Total War!!!

or maybe HELLENIC: TOTAL WAR!!!

or Mongolia: Total War

It can't be China Total war because China never took over everywhere. You have to find something where someone has taken over.

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King Edward 11:32 12-16-2004
Originally Posted by Byzantine_Prince:
How about Africa: Total War!!!

or maybe HELLENIC: TOTAL WAR!!!

or Mongolia: Total War

It can't be China Total war because China never took over everywhere. You have to find something where someone has taken over.

???? no one ever conquered all of Medievil Europe but we have still have MTW.

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MoROmeTe 03:14 12-17-2004
i think Total War: Colonisation of the Americas would sound nice. a few european nations, a few native tribes, a whole lot of posibilities. what if the aztecs ruled the New World. it's within the framework of the series, it's varied. could be a great game.
I also think that a remake of STW and MTW would be nice.

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ICantSpellDawg 07:06 12-17-2004
How about "imperialism: total war"

european (ottoman and japanese, too) would duke it out around the world for colonies and economic and military superiority

think about it
potential units would be endless span from 1600-1900 and you have yourself an incredibly in depth game with unlimited expansion possibilities

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Pomerium 14:52 12-17-2004
Just reading through this thread. My preference would be

1.Napoleonic Wars
2.China
3.American Civil War

It would take some time but I think they could make a playable gunpowder game. It would different and require a different way at looking at moving troops around the field of battle.

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Oaty 15:37 12-17-2004
Originally Posted by Byzantine_Prince:
How about Africa: Total War!!!

or maybe HELLENIC: TOTAL WAR!!!

or Mongolia: Total War

It can't be China Total war because China never took over everywhere. You have to find something where someone has taken over.

Ummm China is as big as Europe. And It could expand beyond China. Should at least include Mongol India and Southeast Asia. Just because the chinese were'nt conquerors does'nt mean the warfare was boring. Also China had a battle with over 1 million people. Considering China is the size of Europe is probabaly a good enough reason they did'nt go around conquering. Of course I'm sure the Mongols would play a major part in it even if it's not during the Khan era

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Empedocles 16:36 12-17-2004
Byzantium Total War would be a mixture of Rome and Medieval, but it will provide this features:
* All people claiming a remake of Medieval with the new graphics will be heard.
* The period (After Justinian death and till 1453) will involve the rise of islam, the desintegration of Islam, fall of Byzance, and all the factions already involved in MTW.

It would require hard work, and maybe turns of 1 year. but it would be cool.

Diego, from Argentina

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Pericles 21:56 12-17-2004
It would be kinda cool to have a world map version of Total War. Imagine the possibilities with that

You could have Colonial: Total War

Or Imperialism: Total War.

Have Europe meets Asia. . .

Also, I think there are lots of possibilities of having a Fantasy: Total War - with brave Knights, Orcs, etc, etc. . .

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Colovion 04:22 12-18-2004
I'd rather their present game be completed and bug free before we speculate which product they will next release.

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Mikeus Caesar 15:50 12-18-2004
From what i can see, the next TW (if there is one), will prolly be napoleonic or china. The china one sounds good, but the napoleonic one would have gunpowder and an epic war involving the world.

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Pericles 17:20 12-18-2004
Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar:
From what i can see, the next TW (if there is one), will prolly be napoleonic or china. The china one sounds good, but the napoleonic one would have gunpowder and an epic war involving the world.
Of the two I would like to see a Napoleonic: Total War. That would be awesome.

Even so, the gunpowder and cannon aspects alone would allow modders to cover some very interesting wars in the 18-19th centuries.

Cheers!

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ivoignob 04:04 12-26-2004
American: Total War is a cool idea but personally i'd like to play an Ottoman: Total War game, where the ottoman empire is at its strongest and challenges south east of europe (the two sieges of vienna!) northern africa, then becomes weak when not acting as fast as the europeans with bulliding colonies etc....

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soibean 05:39 12-26-2004
I think a few of the ideas you guys said sounded good
fantasy total war
china total war
a dark age total war would probably be a mix of what is already out there though wouldnt it?...
why not an Aztec/Maya/Incan etc total war? Thats a totally differnet time period/tech tree. If it is possible I think thatd be cool
You could have the time period ranging from the middle of their rise to power to maybe the first europeans coming in? that way a few gunpowder units are involved but nothing extreme.

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daneboy 10:52 12-28-2004
I played the NTW mood for the MTW and I really liked it, allthough the grafic on the campaignmap could have been better. An interesting era.

An african campaign could be great and a HellenicTW would be awesome as well.

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xorcist 02:47 12-29-2004
you guys / gals are lacking ideas.....i know what i want.....

Civilization Total War.....and here's what i want...

you start in medieval times , with swords, men , etc....258 BC for example

through the years you progress, live the era , get the first ever firearm weapon, a gun , then progress till 1942 with tanks around the world and World war 1 and 2 , till you reach the future (year 2500 perhaps), with nuclear war , super laser weapons, etc...

the TOTAL WAR thing is because since the Medieval till the future you keep fighting and progressing with crap swords till BIO-RIFLE and UFO.....and UFO try to steal your faction by attacking you perhaps....

stuff like this would be fantastic.

what you think ? ;)

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The_Doctor 13:56 12-29-2004
If you go on the CA webiste and go to the games section at the bottom there is a ? on a box with the TW logo in the bottom right hand corner. If you right click on it and then click on properties the pciture is called lbdvd.jpg. If you at the other TW picture the they are called:

rbdvd.jpg for RTW
vdvd.jpg for the MTW:VI
mbdvd for MTW
etc

So the new TW game must begin with the letter L. Or the L stands for latest.

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Nikodemus 17:13 12-29-2004
im rather suprised that no one has said that the Renaissance would make an excellent choice for a total war game, with a timespan of lets say 1500 too 1789 when the french storms the bastilje and begins the revolution.you could play spain with you're tetrcios and try too kick the swedish back into the baltic, or as poland try too fight back the ottomans at the seige of vienna, or as king Carl try too bring tzar peters empire too its knees. wouldn't that just be splendid?

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mfberg 22:57 12-29-2004
I like Napoleonic Total War, for the States they could include the Americas and run from 1740's to 1896, the French/British conflict, all the European revolutions, all the empire breaking, the South American revolutions, the Civil War, the end of free Northern America for most natives, the colonization and rebellions in Africa

"No, seriously I was ambushed just outside of Paris by 2 Mescalero Apache Chosen Warrior units and a Zulu Lancer, they slaughtered my 3 mercenary hessian units and 1 lobsterback and disappeared, I can't wait 'til I build the ammunition plant and can rapid-fire in the rain."

The number of American factions would have to be huge unless most of the Natives were combined.

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Oaty 23:07 12-29-2004
Originally Posted by Martinus:
If you go on the CA webiste and go to the games section at the bottom there is a ? on a box with the TW logo in the bottom right hand corner. If you right click on it and then click on properties the pciture is called lbdvd.jpg. If you at the other TW picture the they are called:

rbdvd.jpg for RTW
vdvd.jpg for the MTW:VI
mbdvd for MTW
etc

So the new TW game must begin with the letter L. Or the L stands for latest.

I knew it I knew it !!!!!!!! the next totalwar release will be Luxomborg totalwar.

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mfberg 23:13 12-29-2004
Lichtenstein Total War

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