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    Nec Pluribus Impar Member SwordsMaster's Avatar
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    Default Crusader Kings

    Hail all the world conquerors, oppressors of our vassals and greedy warmongers!

    Hey Froggy! (Oh, I just know you love this game and you are probably the most experienced CK player around. And I know You will read it )

    Well, I got the game 3 days ago. Didnt realy have time to play because Im planning to go snowboarding next week and I need to get my assignments finished beforehand.

    Anyway, I didnt read the manual (you know the rule: you dont read the manual til something breaks...), and I´ve got a few questions: (please dont tell me to read the manual coz this whole thread would become pointless..)

    1.- How do I have children? (mummy and daddy called a bird in Paris and...)

    Seriously. My king is 32, he is married but 3 years into the game he hasnt had any children yet.

    2.- If the king dies childless, and his brother inherits, but his brother has another kingdom, do they unite?

    3.- Money. I´m just out of a 1.5 year war and my economy is as good as no economy at all. Im in a -400 debt and that doesnt help stabilizing my situation. I know that "tax higher" answer, but is there a more creative and long-term way of doing this?

    4.- At which percentage the social groups start rebelling? 50%?

    5.- What are the advantages of having a vassal ruling a province? It seems that I cant raise armies in the newly conquered provinces either, is it related to the previous question?

    6.- Do I get money from looting? It doesnt appear so, but I tought I would ask anyway...




    Thanks to all.
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    Happy world conquering!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    1.- How do I have children? (mummy and daddy called a bird in Paris and...)

    Seriously. My king is 32, he is married but 3 years into the game he hasnt had any children yet.
    Your wife is probably too old and barren, kill her, marry some 16-year old and watch the kiddies roll in. ANother problem could be that your leader has the "Chaste" trait, in which case you have a problem.

    2.- If the king dies childless, and his brother inherits, but his brother has another kingdom, do they unite?
    yes

    3.- Money. I´m just out of a 1.5 year war and my economy is as good as no economy at all. Im in a -400 debt and that doesnt help stabilizing my situation. I know that "tax higher" answer, but is there a more creative and long-term way of doing this?
    Don't use standing armies!!!!!!!! Disband every unit you have when not in wartime. Generally you make a profit while at peace and when you start mobilising you will almost always lose money, so grab what you need quickly or build up cash reserves first.
    It could also be that your demesne is way too big: see 5.

    4.- At which percentage the social groups start rebelling? 50%?
    dunno really, never had it happen

    5.- What are the advantages of having a vassal ruling a province? It seems that I cant raise armies in the newly conquered provinces either, is it related to the previous question?
    There are no advantages, letting vasals rule counties is just necessary because you can only rule a limited number of lands directly (demesne). Otherwise you get a large income penalty and unhappy vasals. You can raise armies from newly conquered provinces but they will always be tiny because you just whipped their fighting men into submission (or just killed them). They need time to regenerate.

    6.- Do I get money from looting? It doesnt appear so, but I tought I would ask anyway...
    yes, but it's rarely worth it

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    Default Re: Crusader Kings

    Thanks, Count of Flanders!

    One last question:

    If I have the title of "king" of various kingdoms, and I give one of them to one of my courtsmen, are they still my vassals? Or do they become independent?
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    Default Re: Crusader Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    Thanks, Count of Flanders!

    One last question:

    If I have the title of "king" of various kingdoms, and I give one of them to one of my courtsmen, are they still my vassals? Or do they become independent?
    They become independant. I sometimes give king titles to my heir to give him some prestige and then when my current king dies the kingdoms merge again. But it's sometimes risky because your idiot son can get involved in wars and get himself killed or marry an inferior spouse.

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    I've actually stopped playing until patch 1.5 is finished, and it's been ages since I played ... back when 1.3 was around, I think. I didn't like some of the changes 1.4 made.

    To expand on the heir issue, it is not solely down to the wife. There are several factors:
    -Your king's fertility rating (hidden stat)
    -Your wife's fertility rating (again hidden)
    -Your wife's age (past 35 and it is rare for many women to concieve)
    -Traits (lusty boosts fertility, chaste decreases it, and some other traits [often illnesses and stress] also affect it)

    I encountered one peasant rebellion; I think it happened about 50% loyalty. I got hit by a lot of power changing events for that province in a short space of time.

    To get money from war you really have to demand it in a peace setlement. The maximum you can request is 500 gold. The AI can and will offer you much more.
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    Is this game any good?

    How does it compare to MTW or RTW?

    How many regions/provinces does it have?

    Crusader Kings? The holy land or more extensive?
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
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