Poll of the clans

**Lu Meng** · 05-12-2002, 21:20

i'm taking a pollof the 3 clans WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE CLAN???????????//

**Lu Meng** · 05-12-2002, 21:22

WU SHU OR WEI
WU RULES!!!!!!!!!

**Lu Meng** · 05-12-2002, 21:28

WU SUN JIAN
SHU LU BEI
WEI CAO CAO

**Lu Meng** · 05-13-2002, 06:08

Wu had good sratigists but wei was strong. shu was a worthless piece of dust in the corner!

**Gan Ning** · 05-13-2002, 06:54

HAHAHA U got it all wrong man!

Shu had the 2 best stratigest, Wei had the largest armys (from all over), and Wu well i cant think of wat good qualitys they have lol, they had a decent stratigest, Zhoa Yu, but notin compared to the brains of Shu, and the bronze of Wei!

**Lu Meng** · 05-13-2002, 07:12

Actually, Zhou Yu and Pang tong were about as good as they get. shu was strong but wu lasted longest next to wei!

**tienyi** · 05-14-2002, 05:28

Favorite clan is Shu, since its a poll on favourite clan.

**Lu Meng** · 05-14-2002, 05:32

wu is my fav. i like their weapons and costumes! there pretty strong but shu had guan yu!

**Gan Ning** · 05-14-2002, 05:57

UR right Shu had Guan Yu the God of War on their side but u forgot about Zhuge Liange (gay guy lol)!!! The standings go: Jhuge Liange the best, Pang Tong and Zhou Yu, and like Lu Xun, Sun Ce ect.

**Lu Meng** · 05-14-2002, 06:21

gay old guy is right!!!! sun ce wasnt a stratagist. but zhang liao died pretty early first phase of yi ling i think

**JAG** · 05-14-2002, 07:00

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"...but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive,
and the other would accept war rather than let it perish,
and the war came."

Abraham Lincoln, 2nd Inaugural Address
4 March 1865

**tienyi** · 05-14-2002, 23:17

what the spam means Jag?

**NagatsukaShumi** · 05-14-2002, 23:26

Erm well, Gan Ning and Lu meng, is this your personal discussion post? lol

Anyway, I prefer Wu or Wei

**Minamoto Yoritomo** · 05-15-2002, 00:06

Shu fan, personally. History is novelized by the victors.

**Lu Meng** · 05-15-2002, 01:30

first off, i need to know what spam is

and ive nown gan ning since third grade!!!

**Lu Meng** · 05-15-2002, 01:32

first off, i need to know what spam is

and ive nown gan ning since third grade!!!

**Tenchimuyo** · 05-15-2002, 02:13

I liked Shu better. They had the five tiger generals.

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A great warrior rarely reveal his true skills....

**Lu Meng** · 05-15-2002, 02:45

the five tigers were pang tong lu bei ma choa zhang fei and guan yu i think??

**Tenchimuyo** · 05-15-2002, 02:53

You go only two right!
It is actually Zhao Yun, Huang Zhong, Ma Chao, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu.
Pang Tong never lived to see Liu Bei become the emperor of Shu. He was killed at the battle of ....... (damn it, forgot what battle it was!)Any way, Liu Bei was definitely not one of the five.

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A great warrior rarely reveal his true skills....

**Lu Meng** · 05-15-2002, 03:26

i got 3!!!!!!! any way zhou yun was actually 70 when he fought! (either him or zhang he cant rember) pang tong sucked anyway!

**Tenchimuyo** · 05-15-2002, 21:51

Sorry about the number. Zhao Yun fought at 70? Yes he did fought through out his military career, but what did you mean by that? Do you mean a certain time period or a certain specific battles?

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A great warrior rarely reveal his true skills....

**Gan Ning** · 05-16-2002, 02:38

Pang Tong died at Cheng Du, he was ordered to go ahead of Lui Bei and Yhou Yun. (who turned 70 in the Three Kingdoms Period)
Lui Bei nvr realy liked Pang for his messed up appearence and Pang came to Lui Bei only as his Last Ditch. He tryied but wasn't excepted. At the Battle of Cheng Du, Lui Bei, was FORCED (by Jhange Liange and Pang) to attack his own family to have the army of SHU under his control.

**NagatsukaShumi** · 05-16-2002, 02:41

Spam is double-postings and things like that, or irrelevent posts, which are a regular thing at the OT forum

**Lu Meng** · 05-16-2002, 04:04

thx for spam info and for the post!

**Zhao Zilong** · 05-16-2002, 08:06

Quote Originally posted by Lu Meng:
the five tigers were pang tong lu bei ma choa zhang fei and guan yu i think??[/QUOTE]

Shu five tiger generals are (in top down order):

Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao and Huang Zhong.

This order is based on their title (or the time served), not for their skills.

Wei Yan also become one of the five tigers later. Ma Dai replace Wei Yan after that. Guan Xing (Guan Yu's son) and Zhang Bao (Zhang Fei's son) are also tiger generals.

They died in this order:

Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Huang Zhong, Ma Chao, Zhao Yun. (Wei Yan, Ma Dai)

[This message has been edited by Zhao Zilong (edited 05-16-2002).]

**Zhao Zilong** · 05-16-2002, 09:22

Quote Originally posted by Tenchimuyo:
Sorry about the number. Zhao Yun fought at 70? Yes he did fought through out his military career, but what did you mean by that? Do you mean a certain time period or a certain specific battles?

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Yes, Zhao Yun still fight well at the age of 70 (or near). Zhao Yun served in a couple of Northern campaigns (Zhuge Liang's First Northern Expedition) before he died. In those campaign, he still managed to kill 6 or 7 Wei's generals and his name is still terrified his foes. Zhao Yun died a year or two after at the age of 71 (or older).

**Zhao Zilong** · 05-16-2002, 10:00

Quote Originally posted by Lu Meng:
Wu had good sratigists but wei was strong. shu was a worthless piece of dust in the corner![/QUOTE]

No. Remember that, Han Gao Zu (the first Emperor of Han, Liu Bang) started out in Shu province. Han (or Western Han) rules for 230 years then continue to East Han for another 205 years.

By the way, Shu poses a bigger threat to Wei than Wu does. By the end, Wei throws all of their best at Shu hoping that they will destroy Shu. Once Shu fell, Wu can not stand against Wei anymore. In the Shu campaign, Wei has Zhong Hui, Deng Ai (any one of the two could well take Wu alone) under command of Sima Shi (or Sima Zhao ?). Moreover, Jiang Wei didnot have all of the support to fight against Wei during this time. If Wei goes for Wu first, Shu will be strong enough to invade Wei on the Western front.

Anyway, I am for Shu (the last of Han).

Wu invaded my country around AD 200 something. They occupied for years, but was beaten back a few times.

[This message has been edited by Zhao Zilong (edited 05-16-2002).]

**Lu Meng** · 05-16-2002, 20:33

huang was a tiger general? the old archer guy? cool how did guan yu die? he probley thought he was so good he charged himself into zhou yu and got slaughtered. Wei army could kill him tooo i guess.

**Gan Ning** · 05-17-2002, 04:04

Did u not see wat has beeen posted?
The reason Shu was destroyed was because Wei pushed all its might onto Shu! After Wei was greatly weakened at Wu Zhang Plains and the Shu dynasty was destoryed, Wu ran like scared mice. They couldnt stand with out Shu's might, even against the SEVERLY WEAKENED wei army!!!!!!!!

And Guan Yu died protecting the Yin Providence (i think, some providence). Only because of his very small amount of troops, and the VERY LARGE ARMYS of WEI and WU.
It took 2 dynastys to kill him, and they killed him with arrows cause they was 2 wuss to fight! (i think)

**Lu Meng** · 05-17-2002, 04:31

not true guan yu wasnt that strong!! there was lots o poeple who could kill him!! wu didnt run. they stayed right were they WERE!!!!!!!

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