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    Boondock Saint Senior Member The Blind King of Bohemia's Avatar
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    Seth, i'm not sure of any websites on the subject but i do know Osprey are bringing out a campaign book of Acre 1291 sometime in the spring or summer but the best book is the third part of stephen runcimans Crusade trilogy. It is such a great read

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    Trailer looks pretty good: they're wearing chain instead of the usual hollywood full plate armour. The norman-style helmets also gave me a good impression.
    I also read the last book in the series of Jan Guillo (the one with the fall of Jerusalem) but I didn't like it too much as the style of the english translation is rather "common" (don't know a better word for it) and the main character is too much a flawless hero. Just my opinion tough.
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    Jan Guillou's (or how is surname is written) Templar Trilogy is quite good, although there are a few "quirks" I dont like, like that he is a flawless hero (he isn't entirely perfect, I believe there were some minor flaws revealed in the third book) and the main characters has some few "modern views", although the books are so well-written you will overlook it.

    The author wanted to show medieval Scandinavia, the Church's role, and women's life in a macho society. And also to "enlighten" the reader on how much of Scandinavian culture was imported from Europe and the Muslim world.
    The Muslims are shown in a good light, and Scandinavian bishops in a very bad light.

    The author nicely combines imagination with history, and some historical characters make their appearance. Saladin for instance, and Gerard de Ridefort. He is also accurate with equipment and warfare.

    As a sidenote, Jan Guillou also wrote a fourth book, a continuation of the series, where he described Birger Jarls life. He did alot in Sweden, like found Stockholm, the capital, and seperating Church and State.

    And back to topic (sorry for the topic hijack):
    Kingdom of Heaven seems okay for now. But I fear the love story might overshadow the historical part
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    Well done trailer. Might wanna watch the movie, though something pissed me off, Saladin is a very skinny person, he was a kurd, they were generally of bigger build becuase of the rough environment they lived in, not peeps with skin on bones
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    *predicts that obligatory female love intrest will be fought over by a Crusader & a Muslim in true Hollywood style*

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    Speaking of muslims, now i remember whose acting Saladin, i think Hollywood chose the right person, Ghassan Massoud is a very famous syrian actor he did several historical movies/series like Al Hajjaj and Ze Qar, but still hes a bit skinny from what i hear from a recent interview Ghassan says the script is impartial and put saladin in a good light, quit contrary to what i thought actually. Makes me more interested in watching the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faisal
    Speaking of muslims, now i remember whose acting Saladin, i think Hollywood chose the right person, Ghassan Massoud is a very famous syrian actor he did several historical movies/series like Al Hajjaj and Ze Qar, but still hes a bit skinny from what i hear from a recent interview Ghassan says the script is impartial and put saladin in a good light, quit contrary to what i thought actually. Makes me more interested in watching the movie.
    Faisal,

    Of all the things that can go wrong with this film you're concerned about the build of the actor playing Saladin?!?
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