The WASP is coming

[dclare4]

The WASP Province Listing

Please take a look and feel free to let me know of any suggestions and corrections about spelling or names - would like to get contemporary names as much as possible hence the Germanic/English names for some eastern provinces/cities - though would like to find appropriate names in the local language if possible!

Thanks very much,
Comte de Clare

Karelia/St Petersburg
?/Novgorod
?/Smolensk
?/Moskva
Podolia/? (Vinnica?)
?/Minsk
?/Narva
Courland/Riga
Lithuania/Vilnius
?/Poltava
?/Kiev
?(Georgian Caucausus?)/Azov
Crimea/Sevastopol
?(Armenian Caucausus?)/?(Erzurum?)
Mesopotamia/Baghdad
?(Persian Borderlands?)/Tabriz
?/Sinop
Anatolia/Ankara
?/Istambul
?/Izmir
?(Cilicia?)/Iskanderun
Syria/Damascus
?(Lebanon?)/Acre
Palestine/Jerusalem
Cyprus/Famagusta
Rhodos/Rhodes
Crete/Candia
Hellas/Athens
Albania/Tirana
Ionian Islands/Corfu
Macedonia/Thessalonika
?(Rumelia?)/Adrianople
Bulgaria/Sofia
?/[Dalmatian] Ragusa
Dalmatia/Zara
Bosnia/Sarajevo
Serbia/Belgrade
Wallachia/Bucharest
Bessarabia/Galatz
Slavonian Military Border/Peterwardein
Croatian Military Border/Karlstadt
Istria/Trieste
Venetian Republic/Venice
East Prussia/Konigsberg
West Prussia/Danzig
Pommerania/Kolberg
Wielkopolska/Posen
Masovia/Warsaw
?/Krakow
Galicia/Lemberg [Lvov]
Bohemia/Prague
Upper Silesia/Breslau
Lower Silesia/Neisse
Royal Hungary? or Moravia/Pressburg
Hungary/Pest

Norway/Christiana
?/Stockholm
?/Gothenburg
?/Karlskrona
Denmark/Copenhagen
?/Hanover
?/Emden
?/Osnabruck
Hesse-Kassel/Kassel
?/Magdeburg
Brandenburg/Berlin
Mecklenburg/Lubeck
?/Leipzig
Saxony/Dresden
?/Nuremburg
?/Munich
?/Salzburg
?/Vienna

?/Utrecht
?/Nijmegen
Antwerp/Bergen-Op-Zoom
?/Maastricht
?/Bruxelles
?/Liege
?/Tournai
?/Ghent
?(Cleves-Julich?)/Aix la Chapelle
?/Cologne
?/Mainz
Hesse-Darmstadt/Darmstadt
?/Trier
Baden-Wurttemburg/Stuttgart
Switzerland/? (Vindelcorum location)
?/Milan
?/Mantua
?/Turin
?/Cuneo

?/Palermo
?/Messina
?/Siracusa
?/Reggio
?/Taranto
?/Foggia
Naples/Napoli
?/Gaeta
?/Tolentino
Vatican City/Roma
Toscana/Firenze
?/Genova
Duchy of Parma/Piazenca
Emilia/Modena
?/Bologna

?/Cairo
?/Alexandria
?/Bengazi
?/Tripoli
Tunisia/Tunis
Western Sahara/?
Algeria/Algiers
Morocco/Tangiers
?/Ceuta
The Rock of Gibraltar/Gibraltar
Provincia de Cadiz/Sevilla
Provincia de Andalucia/Granada
Provincia de Murcia/Murcia
Provincia de Extremadura/Badajoz
?/Salamanca
Provincia de Galicia/Vigo
?/La Corunna
Provincia de Leon-Asturias/Leon
Provincia de Cantabria/Burgos
Provincia de Castila/Madrid
Provincia de Navarra/Pamplona
Provincia de Viscaya/San Sebastian
Provincia de Catalonia-Aragon/Zaragoza
Provincia de Valencia/Valencia

Algarve/Elvas
Castelo Branco/Abrantes
Estremadura/Lisboa
Braganza/Oporto

Bretagne/Rennes
?/Belle-Isle
?/Caen
?/Rouen
Ile-de-France/Paris
?/Amiens
?/Arras
Champagne/Reims
Lorraine/Metz
Vosges/Strassburg
Bourgogne/Dijon
?/Lyon
Auvergne/Clermont-Ferrand
Berry/Bourges
Anjou-Maine-Orleans/Orleans
Touraine-Poitou-Limousin/Limoges
Medoc/Bordeaux
Gascogne/Bayonne
Languedoc/Toulouse
Dauphine/Grenoble
Provence/Marseilles
Cote d'Azur/Toulon

Sussex/Southwark
Middlesex/London
Hampshire/Southampton
Gloucestershire/Bristol
The West Country/Exeter
Wales/Cardiff
Hereford & Worcester/Worcester
Oxford & Buckinghamshire/Oxford
East Anglia/Norwich
Yorkshire/York
Notts & Derby/Derby
Cheshire/Chester
Lancashire/Preston
Durhamshire/Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Northern March/Carlisle
The Clyde/Glasgow
The Scottish Border/Stirling
Dunbar & March/Edinburgh
Atholl & Mar/Aberdeen
Western Highlands/Lochaber
Ross & Sutherland/Inverness
The Western Isles/Hebrides

Province of Ulster/Belfast
Donegal & West Ulster/Enniskillien
Meath & Longford/Drogheda
County of Dublin/Dublin
Province of Leinster/Wexford
Province of Munster/Cork
Limerick & Tipperary/Limerick
Province of Connaught/Galway

[SwordsMaster]

Provincia de Cadiz/Sevilla
Provincia de Andalucia/Granada
Provincia de Murcia/Murcia
Provincia de Extremadura/Badajoz
?/Salamanca
Provincia de Galicia/Vigo
?/La Corunna
Provincia de Leon-Asturias/Leon
Provincia de Cantabria/Burgos
Provincia de Castila/Madrid
Provincia de Navarra/Pamplona
Provincia de Viscaya/San Sebastian
Provincia de Catalonia-Aragon/Zaragoza
Provincia de Valencia/Valencia

Well, m8. First: remove "provincia de" from every province name
"provincia" means literally province. You dont call Britanny - province of britanny, do you?

Second: Corrections.

-capital of "Cadiz" is, believe it or not, Cadiz.

-capital of Andalucia is Sevilla (I know that means 2 cities very close to each other, but geography is geography and theres nothing we can do to change it...

My advice here is to split "murcia" and give half the province to Valencia (capital Valencia), and merge the other half with a bit of Andalucia, make Murcia capital, with port Cartagena.

-Capital of Extremadura is Badajoz, by any means Salamanca.

-Vizcaya is spelled like that.

-Aragon and Catalun'a are 2 separate provinces. Capital of Aragon: Zaragoza, of Catalun'a: Barcelona.

- Galicia: capital: Santiago de Compostela, (where did you get the others from?), port : El Ferrol.

- Castilla is spelled like that.

- Salamanca/Salamanca: strategically the city´s only merit is that it controls the surounding fields and the bridge over the river Tormes (affluent of the Duero IIRC).

- IMHO you could merge Vizcaya and Navarra without too much harm. And just leave 1 capital - San Sebastian

Advice here, Call Leon-Asturias just Leon. And Cantabria, just Burgos. I assume here that you are just splitting the present-day Castilla Leon into 2 halfs, right?

[cegorach]

Royal Hungary? or Moravia/Pressburg

>>>Royal Hungary is better

West Prussia/Danzig
Pommerania/Kolberg
Wielkopolska/Posen
Masovia/Warsaw
?/Krakow
Galicia/Lemberg [Lvov]

>>>Royal Prussia - Danzig ( Royal since 1467)

Pomerania (or Pommern) - Kolberg ( or former swedish Stettin)

Wielkopolska - Poznan ( Posen is german name)

Masovia (or in polish Mazowsze) - Warsaw or Warszawa

Malopolska ( remember MTW Lesser Poland ?) - Krakow

Galizia ( better Ruthenia or Rus Czerwona since it was Galizia only from 1793 or 1797) -Lemberg ( better Lwow or present name in ukrainian Lviv, Lwow is more accurate for that period).

Courland/Riga

>>> Courland ( Kurland in German) - Mitau ( Riga wasn't in Poland since 1621).

Lithuania/Vilnius

>>> or Litwa - Wilno

Podolia/? (Vinnica?)

>>>> or Podole - Kamieniec Podolski ( a fortress in southern Ukraine)

or even Podole - Bar ( Bar confederacy was founded there).

?/Minsk

>>> either Belorussia or Bialorus - Minsk


I will give you unit info later.


My regards Cegorach

[dclare4]

Thanks Cegorach and SwordsMaster :-) Though I think I should if possible and it's not too heavy I should try posting up map pics - why I merged Cadiz and Sevilla actually is I named some 'regions' after the major ports w/c I'd have wanted to represent as a port and city but wasn't able to because of lack of territories (200 max). I guess I wanted to use Provincia to differentiate some places like Spanish Galicia and Polish/Russian Galicia (perhaps I should just call the former Spanish Galicia).

Lets see short update on whats up with the WASP:

I was ticked off by the paucity of space between the western map edge and the coast of Iberia so I moved everything 50 pixels east but now I'm running into problems with the armies (see other posts for details) so I'm still wondering if I'll do that or not. I basically want to have more space for fleets to maneuver without their getting trapped by fleet ZOCs against the map edge unrealistically.

I've also been tweaking and adding a truckload of major rivers to the maps particularly to central Europe including the Oder, Weser, fixed the Rhine, fixed the Danube, added the Meuse, Rhone, Seine and tweaked London and Venice except I think that the map heights shouldn't place them too high about the sea-level. Does anyone know how to tweak the map-heights (what color values) so I can bring these places down a lot? Right now Southwark and London are atop two HUMONGOUS mounds of earth with the Thames river valley between them and its kinda stupid to look at. Venice too is atop a mountain w/c is the last thing I want.

I think the map is shaping up well though and there are quite a number of potentially great locations - London, San Sebastian fortress (on an island), Venice, Badajoz, Bergen-Op-Zoom (enclosed between a river and the Walcheren bogs) - hopefully the mod can do these places justice.

Now if I could just figure out what's wrong with the blasted army placements...

Cheers,
Comte de Clare

[dclare4]

I may be able to add North America and the Caribbean to the mod but can only spare 4 or 5 provinces for it so most likely will be:

New France (Quebec)
Cape Breton (Louisberg)
New York (New York)
maybe New England (Boston)
New Spain (Havana)

and will have much larger territories. The whole deal being you use forts to hold and take over the areas. I want, if possible, to make the trans-Atlantic convoys, colonial trade wars and such things as battles for Havana, Louisberg and Quebec w/c were key factors, particularly in the Seven Years War (otherwise called the French and Indian War!) so I hope I can include rather than abstract them!

Cheers,
Comte de Clare

[SwordsMaster]

Did you manage to solve that problem?

[Tricky Lady]

The WASP Province Listing

Please take a look and feel free to let me know of any suggestions and corrections about spelling or names - would like to get contemporary names as much as possible hence the Germanic/English names for some eastern provinces/cities - though would like to find appropriate names in the local language if possible!

?/Utrecht
?/Nijmegen
Antwerp/Bergen-Op-Zoom
?/Maastricht
?/Bruxelles
?/Liege
?/Tournai
?/Ghent

Dunno if you're still researching correct province names for the above-quoted cities, but I can give you some tips:

I'd rather take Antwerp as the capital of a province with the same name. Bergen-Op-Zoom should be the capital of another province, as it was part of the present-day Netherlands.
For the other provinces:
Limburg / Maastricht
Brabant / Bruxelles
Liege / Liege (present-day situation, not sure about the situation in the 18th century)
Hainaut / Tournai
Flandres / Ghent

If you prefer "localised" city and province names:
Antwerp = Antwerpen
Bruxelles = Brussel
Flandres = Vlaanderen
Ghent = Gent

Just tell me if this info seems usefull to you. I can research a bit better if you want.


TL

[Paul Peru]

Norway/Christiana
?/Stockholm
?/Gothenburg
?/Karlskrona

Wow! You've got a lot of provinces.

A couple of easy ones:
Norway/Christiania
Svealand/Stockholm

Then it gets a bit more difficult...
I've never seen the south of Sweden divided just like that before.
If you divided it into a middle and a southern part instead of SW and SE, I guess
Gothia/Gothenburg
Scania/Karlskrona
would fit.
If you need to divide it the way you do, the closest thing would probably be Westrogothia/Ostrogothia (sort it out for yourself )

[TheSilverKnight]

Anymore news on this mod, Comte de Clare? It looks very interesting. I hope it didn't die

[dclare4]

No no not at all it's still alive but it's been 'mothballed' temporarily as the good fellow who's been doing the models found another common and somewhat more easily achievable (and more importantly, better researched!) era to mod - the Zulu Wars. But WASP is still alive - the map's done for all intents and purposes (though I'd really love to have a few more - okay more than a few! - available regions to add North America) and when there's more interests (and probably after some 'gunpowder' mods have been released to see how that's handled!) it will continue.

Cheers,
Comte de Clare (Harlechman)