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    I am all for supporting modders and there work, and if posting is a means to show encouragement then here it is.

    I recently had to repurchase MTW... the last one got damaged, I got the battle pack which came with VI 2.01. Am I current? I cant find any more patches on activisions site.

    What I am looking for is a couple of tweeks to make the AI manage its economy better. MedMod was always the one I deferred to, but I am not opposed to trying something new.

    However a finished mod is most preferrable I have been keeping an eye on NTW but cant seem to pull myself out of the middle ages.

    What mod is reccommended for middle ages, more effiecent AI?
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    i believe that VH has been tweaking the economic model with the anticipated XL patch.

    [edit] i could be mixing this up with BKB's super-late release.......... [/edit]

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    M:TW is still my staple diet.

    And I highly apprieciate the effort of the modding community.

    Keep up the good work - we're still very interested in good mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate
    i believe that VH has been tweaking the economic model with the anticipated XL patch.
    The XL mod already has a tweaked economic model, the patch will only make some ajustments to it (if needed).

    MTW XL version 3.0 out now! Get it here:
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    a little more trade income..........?

    it must have been BKB who mentioned ome recent tuning of the economic model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    I recently had to repurchase MTW... the last one got damaged, I got the battle pack which came with VI 2.01. Am I current? I cant find any more patches on activisions site.
    Yes, v2.01 is the latest (and only) patch for VI. CA has a history of making only one patch per game.
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    as long as they get it right.


    Maximus - what's happening?
    Wilipuri - ^as above^
    KoP2 - will anything more happen with Reconquista?
    BKB - Eastern Promise looks like it would be ace, so...............

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    I was thinking about Eastern Promise and if it would be resurrected i would need help especially with unit graphics and other things. So if people would like to see it i would need a great deal of help.

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    how much does the Supermod advance your requirement for new unit graphics?

    sadly my ability is limited to architecture in UnrealED, but i hope the graphic-artists needed turn up, i know Myrddraal suffered a lack of support with his MTW WoT project.

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    For factions in the africa interior and the factions in modern day iran and north india would need new unit graphics.

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    gotcha, cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    Yes, v2.01 is the latest (and only) patch for VI. CA has a history of making only one patch per game.
    Thanks. I played MTW without VI for a long time and loved it. Came home one night a little drunk and stepped on the jewel case and cracked the disc

    Anyway the battle pack with VI was only 19.99 a bargain in my estimation so Im back in the fold of playing MTW. Dont have much expirence with mods though, and am monitoring the boards to see which one achieves the following:

    1. Smarter AI economy: Not just not going bankrupt, but taking those florins and maximizing troop investment via quality.

    2. England: most of the games I have played England gets overrun by the french. I dont have a problem with that, every so often but when your playing in the High period it seems the French just kick the brits A$$.

    3. Not so much cut throat: now I dont know if this can be modded, but once the Mongols show up its a pain in the butt garrisoning provinces AND committing to a war with them. Your Allied AI just moves in, whenever your weaker then he. I understand its a reasonble function of the AI to make the game harder for the human, but the net effect weakens you, and the former ally and that defeats the purpose of the alliance.

    4. Better trade income: When I play with Russia I usually make livonia and Lithuania priorities and set up ports and merchants. Now I know the support cost for my Boyars are dragging me down, but Im at 80% in land development and am almost to venice in my boat chain. Please dont tell me to reduce my boyars, I cant bring myself to do it

    So any mods out there that broach these?

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    Default Re: Rally support for MTW total conversions

    XL vastly reduces trade income, because the AI wasn't making very good economic use of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate
    XL vastly reduces trade income, because the AI wasn't making very good economic use of it.

    Trade is a great way to make cash in MTW, particularly in the Baltic. Those pagan provinces of Pommeranina, Prussia, Livonia, and Lithuania have 2 and 3 trade goods each...

    It would be nice to see the AI improve its units quality with the cash, reducing it is a means to an end but when your playing on Expert and only have 4000 florins that supplemental trade income is crucial particularly for Poland, Denmark, and the Russians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    Trade is a great way to make cash in MTW, particularly in the Baltic. Those pagan provinces of Pommeranina, Prussia, Livonia, and Lithuania have 2 and 3 trade goods each...

    It would be nice to see the AI improve its units quality with the cash, reducing it is a means to an end but when your playing on Expert and only have 4000 florins that supplemental trade income is crucial particularly for Poland, Denmark, and the Russians.
    The farm income has however been increased by 30%, giving the AI a better economy and making the game more fun IMO. It is still possible to make a good trade income, but not as high as before. The AI has also been tweaked so that it builds better units and no peasants.
    The unit morale in my mod has also been increased so that battles are more realistic, but the +5 morale given to AI units on expert makes most units almost fight to the end. I prefer playing on hard, because the AI doesn't get the morale bonus.
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    MTW XL version 3.0 out now! Get it here:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=31201

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingHorde
    The farm income has however been increased by 30%, giving the AI a better economy and making the game more fun IMO. It is still possible to make a good trade income, but not as high as before. The AI has also been tweaked so that it builds better units and no peasants.
    The unit morale in my mod has also been increased so that battles are more realistic, but the +5 morale given to AI units on expert makes most units almost fight to the end. I prefer playing on hard, because the AI doesn't get the morale bonus.
    Does the AI have a hard time with the different sources of income? Florins are florins to me, but If the AI struggles with getting trade income then nice adjustment

    That +5 morale bonus might make the game impossible, at least for me A big part of my strat is to overwhelm units so they break and run them down. If they dont break I am engaged and can be flanked. This is also a nice adjustment probably makes quality ranged units a necessity.
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingHorde
    The farm income has however been increased by 30%, giving the AI a better economy and making the game more fun IMO. It is still possible to make a good trade income, but not as high as before. The AI has also been tweaked so that it builds better units and no peasants.
    The unit morale in my mod has also been increased so that battles are more realistic, but the +5 morale given to AI units on expert makes most units almost fight to the end. I prefer playing on hard, because the AI doesn't get the morale bonus.
    sounds ace. any ETA on the patch?

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