Anybody miss the Early/High/Late Stages?

**Mikeus Caesar** · 01-09-2005, 14:45

the MAP EDITOR!!

From what i know, there was going to be a map editor, but for some unknown reason they didn't bother including it in the actual game. I think they just hid the unfinished map editor files somewhere deep in the game's files.

**dismal** · 01-10-2005, 18:29

Well, I'm gonna break the trend and say I prefer the unit rosters to be fairly simple.

I'd rather have the challenge of winning with relatively balanced armies technologically. (Some games take this to an extreme and you end up with tanks against spearmen)

Ideally the game would force you into a relatively realistic spear/sword/archer/cav chess match.

I do like the experience bonuses.

**sunsmountain** · 01-10-2005, 18:43

No, but none of my campaigns go beyond 200 BC. I usually pause my expansion to incorporate the marian reform units with 2 or 3 xp and silver/golden weapons, mainly the legionares and 2 or 3 urban cohorts for morale points (flanks, center).

I usually trigger the marian reforms myself with a lvl 5 government building, and as far as i'm concerned, they can toss out the 2nd and 1st century altogether. Not very historical i know, but i dont need them.

So what was this question about starting later? Doing the same things with a different counter in the bottom right corner? For historical flavor, perhaps. That archimedean screw does get boring after a while, as does the egyptian glass.

But for game purposes, no, i'm pretty happy with the present tech tree and speed. If only the AI would grow its cities to level 5 more, and not just in Egypt. Epic walls make for great sieges, if only the siege AI and pathfinding was less frustrating.

Mmm... medieval does start to look tempting..

**Colovion** · 01-10-2005, 18:53

I find that RTW lacks the depth of MTW.

Possibly because of the many many inventions in military means during the Midieval Era and in the Roman Era anything that is invented by anyone is Roman.

It's strange that something as subtle as that could take away from the depth and gameplay of RTW.

**KiOwA** · 01-11-2005, 02:21

The Greeks did contribute many inventions to history, though, and many of the barbarian nations utilized calvary to an extent that the Romans were not able to grasp.

**master of the puppets** · 01-11-2005, 02:59

far better than the very forum of the senate this forum is.
so many old men gabbing and complaining but none with enough balls to lead the troops themselves.
is there any way to send an email to the RTW creators? make suggestions? i would LOVE a map creator, to build a small valley with cliffs on each side. defending that valley about 10 units of spartan hoplites, attacking 20 units of persian infantry, and reinforcements of heavy cavalry.
but still is there any place to voice our opinions to these creators?

**sunsmountain** · 01-14-2005, 15:04

No, master of puppets, we cannot force them to give us Map Editors, Battle Editors, etc. But we can start polls in forums and put them under pressure that way. Good idea, im going to start 1 on each of the 3 sites.