... and new India cavalry concepts above too.
... and new India cavalry concepts above too.
Those Kamikaze fellows remind me of Kikuchiyo from The Seven Samurai.
.. and a new concept for Chinese officers/standard bearers etc in post 2
FuriousMental - yep that's who the kamikaze are based on. Just a shame i can't capture the intensity.
dark_shadow - The Guan Yu cavalry were added to replace the war chariot but the chinese are are full up for infantry at the moment. Maybe Lu Bu can appear as a mercenary unit later.
I think you captured it well- had you not, I wouldn't have caught on to the resemblance!
The mongol, korean, monk and rebel armylists have been updated at the top of this thread.
looking great tough
No mangudai for the mongol faction? And will the priests get a "magic" unit?
Overall looks good, but a few suggestions.
Firstly don't make the mongol elite calvary archers be mercs, when the mongols were used as merc they usually were used as shock troops not in thier traditional fashion. In this vein i think that the mongols should also have another lesser calvary, a type of light calvary composed of younger men trying to prove themselves, this than would be the unit available as mercs.
Also i think that the Koreans should have a mystic or a bare handed martial-artist unit to help balance the faction out and make it more unique.
Other than that, great stuff, i'd love to see your concept art, which by the way is excellent, for these new factions.
EDIT: Sorry, just remembered. The Koreans were quite fond of the No-dachi after it was introduced to them by the japanese invasion. Just an idea.
Last edited by DragoonXXIV; 04-15-2005 at 19:43.
cheers guys.
Note: updated demon army list with concepts for demon officers/standard bearer etc.
That is decidedly NOT something i would want to see following me down the street late at night.
Or at all for that matter.
Just a question but what kind off special units will Japan the mongol faction and korea get. While China has leopards, buffalo chariot, camels, fire lancer chariots. India has Elephants and chariots. Demons have lots of special units but Japan, Mongols and korea? not one at this moment!
The mongols should have some form of primitive gunpowder explosive. Expensive, inaccurate, with low ammo, but deadly. Perhaps something like the thunder bombers from STW:MI. They were basically just slingers with explosives. You could just use the head hurler animation.
Last edited by shifty157; 04-28-2005 at 22:12.
thx for the awnser shifty!
And those explosive slingers would really be cool!
I'm afraid the mongols are what I'm calling a mini faction (as are korea) ie a faction with fewer units. This is a limitation due to lack of time. Hopefully in future the Mongol faction could be expanded, other units might include wolf handlers and shamans but it depends on time really. Some top unit ideas though.
that's really a shame, cause I'd loved to see even more crazy units but this is still going to be supermod!Originally Posted by hoggy
i really forgot how terrible the graphics of the explosions were in stw...
i think keeping them as a mini faction for now is the best idea, as they aren't a vital part to the playability of the game and it would take too long to add them completely to the game.
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I like those concept art drawins , who is the author of them?
Btw The mod looks really amazing , but I am asking myself where comes from all this ideas or informations of units ? is it based on what , imagination or legend? and the supposed timeframe what should it be?
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Hoggy makes the concepts. The demon units are based on cultural legend however they are not confined to it. There is no specific timeframe for the other factions and their units. Again they are historically based but they are not confined by our history. This is a fantasy mod with flavorings of far eastern culture and history.
I hope I answered that to Hoggy's satisfaction.
Last edited by shifty157; 05-02-2005 at 21:27.
Mongals Should Have Lots Of Cavalry They Focused On Cavalry In Their Armys They Were In Massed Numbers Too!
Hey.
I was googling for a samurai mod for RTW, and came across this mod. It looks fantastic! I can't wait to get a working version. From the screenshots, it looks like it'll be great.
By the way, are the concept drawings originals?
- Kuro
Abokasee - I agree but in TW a faction only able to build cavalry will never win battles. People would simply field spearmen and archers against the mongols. As it is the Mongol cavalry will be cheap and plentiful but they have the ability to create infantry too.
Kurogane - glad you like the mod. the drawings are originals and are done to help me work out what the units will look like and for the unit cards.
I liked these characters.
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with 0 losses to his name.
Hunkin Elvis"
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Cheers Hunkinelvis, I hope you don't mind I moved these here:
There used to be a pond at the front of this temple.
and these from HunkinElvis too, excellent reference cheers:
Generals or Admirals
Hwarang Cavalry (Silla, 5th century)
Hwacha (Chosun, 16th century)
A slight change to the indian army list. I can't remember who mentioned it but the gurkhas are been dropped in favour of Chakra throwers
they look cool but can't you have both :( :(
btw: Nice concept draw
I was the guy that requested Chakra Throwers, are you taking into consideration the "Manthra" ability that I mentioned also?
That's very cool. Those are some excellent sounding names. "Court of the Sun", "Court of the Moon"..."The Evil Cult".Originally Posted by Jenns
It's great to see that so many people still have vivid imaginations..
And I sure wish Hoggy would combine his great graphic skills and vivid imagination with a lot of Jenn's superb concepts. They're very poetically allusive...
Hoggy, I'm an artist myself, and I have to say, as amazing as your talents as a modeller are in 3D Max, your effortless freedom with pen and ink are amazing. In particular I'm envious of your horses. I swear, CA should hire you to redo all their horses, if nothing else...Kurogane - glad you like the mod. the drawings are originals and are done to help me work out what the units will look like and for the unit cards.
Last edited by Ferocious_Imbecile; 05-31-2005 at 10:54.
Hi again. Been lurking on the forum for awhile (without posting though) and I have to say that Hoggy & Co are god sent modders. Looks wonderful.
I saw on the other forum that Hoggy requested pictures and stuff with/about korean units. Wel I found some, most of them are from the "historical" movie MUSA.
Heavy infantry/bodyguard:
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa32.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa63.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa64.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa81.jpg
http://www.hwarangdo.com/pics/ancient1.jpg
Mix of warriors, monks, archers and captains:
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa2.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa3.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa5.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa8.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa93.jpg
http://www.atarn.org/korean/ia1.gif
http://img.kbs.co.kr/cms/ICSFiles/af.../24/b_0021.jpg
Heavy cavalry:
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa35.jpg
http://koolouis.new21.net/murim/musa/musa61.jpg
[url]http://www.mygoguryeo.com/heroes_img/heroes03_main_pic00.gif[url]
War scenes/paintings:
http://www.hwarangdo.com/pics/bottle1.jpg
http://www.hwarangdo.com/pics/ancient2.jpg
http://www.kuksoolwon.com/images/history03.jpg
http://img23.exs.cx/img23/305/anshi2.jpg
PHwarang pics from another strategic war game:
http://apolyton.net/ron/factsheets/i...ons/korean.gif
Last edited by Kageka; 06-02-2005 at 14:39.
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