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    Good job, Morray. Thanks for finding those.

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    Here is a website that show videos of a Korean cavalry:

    Last edited by Shaka_Khan; 12-29-2005 at 04:43.
    Wooooo!!!

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    About the Korean faction
    I think it is/was a good idea to spell the korean-faction 'wrong', Choson.

    Why? First: the faction (like all/most of the ones in BL) got units from different epochs/kingdoms, not from one specific. Second: naming and spelling the faction after an actual place in our worlds history would sabotage the felling of BL's mythological and fantasy-like feel and flavor. It's like naming an island in a LOTR-game Britannia or Gothia.

    By spelling it Choson and not Joseon/Choseon we all know that the faction is based on korean historical armies. But still it is a integrated part of the world of Blue Lotus instead of being a rebirth of ancient Korea.
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    More mongolian units to come?
    I know that the Kharazai Khanate (mongolian faction) is a mini-faction, but I wonder if there are any plans to add troops like you did with Choson (korean faction)?

    It feels like the mongolian faction should be more than it is for the moment. I mean it is khanate mongols! One of the strongest/biggest armies and empires ever. They should get something extra. That's my opinion.

    I know that people have asked before if Thunder Bombers (STW) will be included. The answer was no. Is it still a no or have you guys talked about maybe add thunderbombers to the mongolian faction? There are already units in RTW that have sling weapon-animations; you could use those and use a (slightly altered) khanate infantry-unit for model? It would be a really cool yet volatile and dangerous skirmish unit to add when one arrange his khanate army. They can deal enormous damage to the enemy if lucky, but be devasting for the own troops if youre unlucky. Russian roulette!

    Also it would fit if there where some extra cavalry unit-choice (Keshiks?) for the Khanate.

    Just some suggestions.
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    Sounds do-able. Does anyone else have any suggestions for new Mongol units that would bolster their army list?

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    Hehe, I have a few more suggestions for the mongol unit list.

    1. Trebuchet- It would be cool if the mongols/kharazai khanate used counterweight trebuchets (that launches bombs/large thunderbombs) as their artillery choice instead of the onager.

    2. Keshiks- Veteran elite cavalry. The best of the best horseman warriors. Fastest cavalry unit in the game with outstanding bowman skills and yet being good in melee situations. Medium armor and superior morale. They should be few in numbers (maybe 10 to 20 riders per unit). They could maybe function as the generals bodyguard as well?

    3. Wolf handlers- Ok this is slightly pushing the limits because as far as I know there where no wolf handlers/war wolves used by the mongols. But the wolf where a important part of the mongolian mythology. I have even read somewhere that the mongolians believe that they descend from the wolves. I mean this is a mythologic mod, so why not ad a similar unit to the RTW Warhounds for the Mongolians. But instead of bloodhounds they send howling wild wolves to deal with the enemy.
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    If you want more mythological style units then:

    Wolf Guard: Infantry troops, not too good in offense or defense but lots of hitpoints and near fanatical. Covered in wolf pelts these guys hold the line while the Khanate cavalry sweeps in the sides or envelop. The idea is: 'too stubborn to quit, too stupid to die'.

    Khan(ate) Guard: Sworn to defend the Khan and his empire, these heavy cavalry are shock troops. Always the first on the field, this unit will shatter weaker formations and make throw confusion in the enemy ranks, making it easier for the other Khanate troops to choose thier targets. However these guys should be hard to handle, they might charge any enemy on sight.

    Demon Hunters: In these uncertain times, the Khanate has had to resort to more drastitc measures to deal with the growing reports of undead armies and demons to the North. The result was fight magic with magic, only the greatest warriors in the clans could endure the rituals and trials necessary to become a demon hunter. These tattooed riders are the fastest shock troops in the world, if only the Khanate had more of them. (The idea is sort of a hero unit for the mongols)

    Obviously these suggestions are not firmly rooted in history, however the first two aren't that far off, and the last is just to add some flavor since the mongols have an encroaching horde from the north.

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    I believe you should not overlook the oppertunity to include a female unit within the Mongolians.
    It was common place for Women (of high caste) to run the Khans on several occasions during one eara a Female ran the nation for two years!
    (Thats quite impressive if you ask me!)

    So as to splinter away from screeching women ala. Germans maybe you can include Women that inspire the men to great actions I.E. bolster morale!

    They could be in like a cool Palanquin mouted on horses or something!
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    Mangudai:
    Mangudai were the best warriors that date back to the late 13th century. They were explained to be as viscous wolves with blood drenched fangs that attacked a much larger animal (empire). They always won. Never knew defeat or what it felt like to lose a battle. They fear no enemy. They are also known as suicide warriors. Suicide operations within this tradition are found sporadically across different cultures.

    These troops were used as bait to charge the enemy and then retreat, hoping the enemy would break ranks and pursue them into a well-coordinated trap.

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