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    hello , i have a question about pikemen , why macedonians real pikeman have hoplites xixstons????? in history , the macedonians use the hoplon and the xiston ???? because in the game the real pikemen are like hoplites , but they have more men in the units....

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    Are you asking us historically what weapon the Macedinians used?
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    Poor grammar overload....can't....contain.....*head explodes*
    Love is a well aimed 24 pounder howitzer with percussion shells.

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    Give him a break, he's from Mexico!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridge
    Give him a break, he's from Mexico!
    There's no reason to break a man simply because he's from Mexico. I'm an equal opportunity breaker and I will break anyone I please regardless of their origin.
    *breaks Fridge*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow-rack
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    It's actually more like Cor-ack.
    Love is a well aimed 24 pounder howitzer with percussion shells.

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    I think he wants to know why the macedonian royal pikemen use the same spears as the hoplites instead of long pikes like levy pikemen and the other macedonian phalanx unit.

    I´m not a native english speaker, but I can understand him better than you, Khorack?
    Think about that, concerning knowledge of a language.


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    Im from norway, 14 years old, reading and writing disorder. And you can understand what i write, (hopefully) So its no excuse being from mexico!


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    Quote Originally Posted by aw89
    Im from norway, 14 years old, reading and writing disorder. And you can understand what i write, (hopefully) So its no excuse being from mexico!
    Maybe he just learned English or uses it very little.

    As far as the topic in question goes. Just way too many little details to get all in the game, but that's what modding is for.
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    The Macedonian Royal Pikemen use short pikes in the game. This is a known mistake. It can be easily changed by going to your data\export_descr_unit.txt file, scrolling down to the unit "greek_royal_pikemen", and modifying the line "stat_pri_attr" to read "spear, long_pike" instead of just "spear".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical
    The Macedonian Royal Pikemen use short pikes in the game. This is a known mistake. It can be easily changed by going to your data\export_descr_unit.txt file, scrolling down to the unit "greek_royal_pikemen", and modifying the line "stat_pri_attr" to read "spear, long_pike" instead of just "spear".

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    I don`t want to be rude , but have to point out few misconceptions in your thread:

    1. Royal Pikemen don`t use "short pikes" in vanilla RTW, they use normal ones (just as other hoplites)

    2. There is mistake in unit`s name, rather then in it`s weapon. Hypaspists were armed just as standart hoplites - spear + large shield. I`d rather say that they, along with most other spear units, should have "short pikes" but it`s a debatable issue.

    3. If you want to make them pikemen, you should also change their shield to the small one.

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    Indeed... The name is what makes for a misunderstanding. Nobody would complain if they had been named Hypaspists, and that is what they are.
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    Viva Mexico Cabrones !!!!!!!

    im sorry for my english , maybe sucks , so im in quick learning now , sorry for the name , its royal pikeman no real pikeman , and , and thanks for the help , but if some one have a problem with me only because im mexican , and i dont speak correctly english , just say me that in my face and i will kick his ass down cabron , cmon ,

    Someday i will recover the states that we loss in the american invasion off 1846!!!! , and sorry for my english again , but dont worry , some day , you americans will speak mexican or will die!!!!!!!

    again sorry for my english , and good night.



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    a correction : im only have problems with the americans that hates mexicans!!
    im sorry if i ofend some others and sorry if im Exaggerating but I am annoyed today .

    sorry for my english again

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    Rotflmfao!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudshovel
    a correction : im only have problems with the americans that hates mexicans!!
    im sorry if i ofend some others and sorry if im Exaggerating but I am annoyed today .

    sorry for my english again
    You think you're sorry about English : I have to speak it every day of my life !
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    As for the Royal Pikemen , they are sort of an amalgamation of several historical units I think , but don't have the range of abilities that the Hypaspists had ; the Hopilite type Hypaspists should be able to exchange their spears for Javlins and act as elite heave peltasts , and there should be a sword specialist version I think as well .
    The best option is to change the name to Hypaspists , adjust their stats to allow them to function well with swords and perform better all-round {they are really only on par with Armoured Hopilites as is} then create a javlin and sword armed version to round out the Hypaspist element of Macedons' armies , though creating a purely sword armed specialst as well might be worth it for some folk .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudshovel
    Viva Mexico Cabrones !!!!!!!


    Someday i will recover the states that we loss in the american invasion off 1846!!!! , and sorry for my english again , but dont worry , some day , you americans will speak mexican or will die!!!!!!!

    Maybe you should be more concerned with Mexico's child prostitution rings, drug economy, and widespread corruption from beat cops all the way up to the top than with getting Texas back. I've been there, the people are weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudshovel
    Someday i will recover the states that we loss in the american invasion off 1846!!!!
    Verdad? Then you are well on your way to achieving your goal, caballero.


    ...y bienvenidos al org grande y maravilloso!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudshovel
    a correction : im only have problems with the americans that hates mexicans!!
    im sorry if i ofend some others and sorry if im Exaggerating but I am annoyed today .

    sorry for my english again

    And Just when I had set of the 30 cals and pointed them south-ward..

    I do not hate mexicans and I am a American. I work regularly with Hispanics and really enjoy it. (mostly) However, do not let them get to you, and for GODS SAKES MAN do not turn the attack against others who are not involved

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    *shrug* I'm English. It's a free ticket to hate anybody.
    Love is a well aimed 24 pounder howitzer with percussion shells.

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    Ah well I'm Irish so that gives me the right to hate all English people
    We will get back our six counties that you stole from us

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    i'm dutch, never met a mexican in my life.
    I speak english all the time, I get it at school along with french and german. it's my prefered language.
    don't think you want texas to be a part of mexico, if everybody in there are as stupid and moranic as Bush you might just wanna let it be.

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    Guys don't mind Khorak, he's really a pussy who tries to cover up his lack of endowment with bellicose posts.






    Good to see you here Khorak

    And on the matter of Macedonian Royal Pikemen, if they're in fact supposed to have that shorter spear then I think I may play them afterall.

    Renaming them would eliminate the confusion.
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    You will all bow before the Empire of Brussels when our time comes, Flanders will rule the world !

    (we deserve it after being ruled by half the world already)
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    Belgians are just disaffected Dutchmen anyway

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    It says in they'r unit description that they do have the spear the hoplites use anyway...


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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    You will all bow before the Empire of Brussels when our time comes, Flanders will rule the world !
    Be warned world, lock up your daughters, baton down the hatches the Belgians are coming. Their legions of civil servants are relentless and unstoppable, armed with the truly deadly bureaucracy thrower, they will soon have you convinced a carrot is a fruit!!

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    They will also be hellbent on regulating the angle of crookedness of cucumbers once in power.

    Think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    They will also be hellbent on regulating the angle of crookedness of cucumbers once in power.

    Think about it...
    Not to forget the banana.

    But honestly it had a reasonal background (both bananas and cucumbers), though it was a bit too far out for most of us, and it would have been better to leave it alone.
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