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    For it's time frame Shogun by far. My wife had to convince me I was not a samarai and they did not exist anymore.

    RTW went too much for arcade style to draw in the sales. I do'nt mind that too much but high kill rates, cavalry cutting through phalanxes like butter(and this is on huge settings) should be thrown into the arcade style options. And the kill rate mod was great until I found out it unbalanced the game. Wardogs still have the same kill rate allowing them to chew anything up and peasants able to chew generals to shreds. And peasants on a wall were invincible. I think the game was made to allow peasants a minimum kill rate so reducing the overall kill rate did not effect them. So hopefully they make the kill rate more moddable as I hat th pause button. And the worst part is I might pause 20 times for a 3 minute battle(game time) with a total of 30 plus units wich should last a good ten minutes minus the march for engagement.

    Also the wooded battlefields, they got the part right you ca'nt see worth a crap in the woods but the part of many battles being fought there is wrong. wooded battles were usually ambushes or the woods were protecting flanks. Now modern day woods around cities are a laugh get away from the city and go into the woods there. They are so thick with underbrush that if you were planning an ambush the area would have had to been cleared with maybe the edge left in tact so that the ambush is kept concealed.


    Edit: Also take out those 60 degree slopes in the mountain passes, the comp ca'nt handle it and obviously the comp does'nt get as dumbfounded on near flat maps.
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    i voted for RTW.

    I agree with many members of this community that RTW still has many flaws but I am optimistic for the patch. If this patch solves the most flagrant errors that are still in the game, I don't think I could ever return to MTW, except if I really want to revive good old times...

    One thing MTW has over RTW in my opinion: MTW was much much more addictive than RTW. I just couldn't stop playing that game. I bought MTW in Feb 2004 and played it almost continuously, just until I left for a two-weeks holiday in England, and then when I came back I just couldn't get into the game anymore...

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    I like the time period of MTW better, and it did seem alot more addictive then RTW.
    However, RTR is helping RTW tremendously.
    Also, I very much perfered the battle interface of MTW.
    If MTW had RTW grafics that would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Lady
    I agree with many members of this community that RTW still has many flaws but I am optimistic for the patch. If this patch solves the most flagrant errors that are still in the game
    Has any of the devs said anything about fixing the kill and speed rates? (This is aside from friendly fire, protectorate etc....)

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    I voted for Medieval, with the expansion and some mods its a keeper. Now when the patch comes out for Rome ask again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietus
    Has any of the devs said anything about fixing the kill and speed rates? (This is aside from friendly fire, protectorate etc....)
    Well actually kill speed and turbo running speeds should be moved under the wings of the "arcade style". I guess some people like this kind of hack hack kill kill speedy games, but they're definitively not visiting these forums That would do for me

    I must confess that MTW and RTW are pretty much tied up for me; and indeed MTW's timeframe is a tad more interesting than RTW's.

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    So I guess I should've voted "MTW" then

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    All three games have their qualities. S:TW had a brilliant atmosphere and an elegant simplicity that made the game absorbing. M:TW had more complexity than S:TW, both on and off the battle map, making the game less elegant, but not less good. R:TW has brilliant graphics and an excellent campaign game, but these are spoiled a by the poor AI and the way battles resolve too quickly for my taste.

    I think R:TW would win hands down if they solved those two problems, but as it is, I don't have a favourite.
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    STW for sure! The game had the best time frame and overall aura to it that I could not put it down. Tho I never played mp in the days of Shoggy I hope for STW2, as it is hands down the best setting for a tw game
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    Quote Originally Posted by oaty
    For it's time frame Shogun by far. My wife had to convince me I was not a samarai and they did not exist anymore.
    haha, i've had the feeling a few times too!

    addicted to STW and voted for it!
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    I will have to vote for MTW: it has varied factions, great tactical battles, The Golden Horde, Crusades, tons of different units, and the game is very moddable, with many excellent mods...

    STW comes in a close second: great atmosphere, movies, cut-scenes, etc. Everyone should own both games.

    RTW: I must confess that I don't have this game yet. But from what I have been hearing, it sounds like it needs some fixing...

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    Of all three Total War games... Everyone are unique.

    Thanks Creative Assembly for such horrible, horrible games. They almost killed me for lack of sleep. Since the first day of Shogun!

    That's why I vote for it. It's all about originality.

    Japan is very simple, making war simply about better tactics. (You can't find the more powerful Chivalric Sergeants to crush the petty spearmen head-on.) It is also related to the fact that this is first game ever that I really love.

    The Medieval Europe is the "perfection" of Shogun. I love its differing events. You can find a thousand different campaigns playing in it.

    Rome, however, has been given too few credits here. Sure, it's very, very far from perfect. Some say not even good. I, however, need to point out that CA is taking a whole new step. Things in game are horribly messy, true, but I expect that the patch will help a bit, and the expansion will be a BANG!!! It has far more potential that the mighty Shogun once possessed.

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    The first time I played Shogun I was hooked on Total War. I played the Dunes, Starcrafts, etc. but nothing came close to the range of emotions I experienced playing Shogun. Then there came Medieval - very good. Then the Viking expansion - excellent. Then Rome - good??? I spent a lot of money to upgrade my computer to play this new Total War game. I do like Rome (they gave us war elephants), but I am a bit disappointed. Maybe my expectations were to high. I vote for Medieval.

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    STW of course. Hands down. I loved MTW in its prime...

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    CA should be very worried. RTW is now trailing badly in third place...
    Rome Total War, it's not a game, it's a do-it-yourself project.

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