How to cause the "epic battles"

**Ar7** · 01-16-2005, 18:10

Sounds interesting, I think I am going to try this. I guess my planned campaign as the barbarians or the Julii is not going to happen, I need somebody rich "click begin new Brutii campaign"

**Mikeus Caesar** · 01-16-2005, 18:37

No no no, click "begin new Greek Cities campaign". They maybe hard at first, but once you get them going, they are amazing!!!

**Ar7** · 01-16-2005, 19:52

Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar

No no no, click "begin new Greek Cities campaign". They maybe hard at first, but once you get them going, they are amazing!!!

I made I rule for myself, I ain't touching any phalanx nation until they are officially bug free. I am not taking any chances, I don't want to get frustration instead of fun.

**Kraxis** · 01-16-2005, 22:11

Originally Posted by Ar7

I made I rule for myself, I ain't touching any phalanx nation until they are officially bug free. I am not taking any chances, I don't want to get frustration instead of fun.

Don't do that (but ok sincethe patch is near), they are still grand and fun.
The Greek Cities have hoplites en masse, and hoplites are less brittle than the phalangites, so they are much easier to control. The Seleucids have those amazing Cataphracts and Companions (not to forget elephants of three types and chariots), so they are fun too. Egypt is much more than phalanxes as are the Armenians and Pontus. So don't deny yourself the pleasure.

**aw89** · 01-16-2005, 22:45

I am at the moment pumbing money into germania, and seluicids. it doesn't seem to work, but i it keeps me away from the 50 000 limit

**Ar7** · 01-17-2005, 19:30

Originally Posted by Kraxis

Don't do that (but ok sincethe patch is near), they are still grand and fun.
The Greek Cities have hoplites en masse, and hoplites are less brittle than the phalangites, so they are much easier to control. The Seleucids have those amazing Cataphracts and Companions (not to forget elephants of three types and chariots), so they are fun too. Egypt is much more than phalanxes as are the Armenians and Pontus. So don't deny yourself the pleasure.

I know they are fun, that's why I want that future campaign to be perfect fun, if I would play today and loose a huge battle due to the phalanx....I would be pissed...so I rather wait

**Proletariat** · 01-18-2005, 10:52

Originally Posted by Ar7

I know they are fun, that's why I want that future campaign to be perfect fun, if I would play today and loose a huge battle due to the phalanx....I would be pissed...so I rather wait

I felt this exact same way forever, but once I tried the Selecuids I was sold.
Phalanx aren't half as troublesome as they are claimed, assuming you take them off of 'gaurd' and form them in a line where there are no gaps between units. The default line for phalanx units is idiotic. I know that sounds like micromanaging, but it's not as bad as it sounds.

I was very, very apprehensive before I tried a phalanx using country, too. I recommend if you do try, use the Seleucid as their powerful cavalry make up for having slow phalanx units for infantry. Also, they have a ridiculous amount of cash, once you take Jerusalem and the few Arabic provinces to the east. I'd say even more than what you get by taking all of Greece.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 01-18-2005, 18:36

Yeah, I think mthe Seluecids are one of the best factions once you get them going, plus if you get sick of micromanaging phalanxes you can eventually churn out roman style legionairries and two of the best cavalry units in the game. Add elephants to taste.

**Ar7** · 01-20-2005, 14:10

Originally Posted by Proletariat

I felt this exact same way forever, but once I tried the Selecuids I was sold.
Phalanx aren't half as troublesome as they are claimed, assuming you take them off of 'gaurd' and form them in a line where there are no gaps between units. The default line for phalanx units is idiotic. I know that sounds like micromanaging, but it's not as bad as it sounds.

I was very, very apprehensive before I tried a phalanx using country, too. I recommend if you do try, use the Seleucid as their powerful cavalry make up for having slow phalanx units for infantry. Also, they have a ridiculous amount of cash, once you take Jerusalem and the few Arabic provinces to the east. I'd say even more than what you get by taking all of Greece.

Damn you, damn you all

After these words I tried the phalanxes in the custom battle and noted that If I keep them as an army group they stick to their positions. So you tempted me and now I will start a Macedonian campaign as soon as I will have a chance