Mother of all bugs--missile and melee

**Colovion** · 01-17-2005, 09:53

Originally Posted by zhuge

In case we need to live with this bug... could we mod down ALL missile values. Red Harvest was suggesting taking off about one-third of missile attack for various units in that Rock/Scissors/Paper thread. I believe that would put missile attack at about the same values as melee... or at least closer. What units have the biggest missile Vs melee difference?

Dunno... I really hope CA fixes this one.

hopefully they caught it in the patch

wow I wish there was like a list of fixes that will be in the patch so that if there was any glaring missing bugs they could be fixed in a more proactive fashion

**zhuge** · 01-17-2005, 10:03

Just a thought. If you click Alt making them switch to a secondary weapon before charge does that affect the outcome? Or do they still use their missile attack regardless.

**Arkatsson** · 01-17-2005, 14:16

That is one strange bug. But we shouldn't mod it. Because doesn't the missle stat also tells how much damage the arrow or javalin does?

**Sinner** · 01-17-2005, 14:28

Nope, the attack stats determine the chance of hitting, not the damage.

Originally Posted by zhuge

Just a thought. If you click Alt making them switch to a secondary weapon before charge does that affect the outcome? Or do they still use their missile attack regardless.

As Red Harvest says in the original post, using the Alt attack changes nothing, they still use the stat of the missile attack in melee.

**aw89** · 01-17-2005, 15:21

I just lost all my willingness to play RTW...

**zhuge** · 01-17-2005, 16:16

Originally Posted by Sinner

As Red Harvest says in the original post, using the Alt attack changes nothing, they still use the stat of the missile attack in melee.

Oops, curse me for not reading properly before posting. Sorry.
I saw Captain Fishpants around a couple of hours ago. Not sure if he noticed this thread though. I'm hoping we can get an early readme on patch fixes next week.
The thread at the official forums on this bug:
http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...ID=19194.topic

**Kraxis** · 01-17-2005, 18:27

Arrrgh!

This is really bad news! Especially since the patch has been sent to Q&A... So if this isn't fixed, then we might have to wait more (can't believe they won't get the money to fix this from Activision).

**Red Harvest** · 01-17-2005, 20:49

Originally Posted by Kraxis

Arrrgh!

This is really bad news! Especially since the patch has been sent to Q&A... So if this isn't fixed, then we might have to wait more (can't believe they won't get the money to fix this from Activision).

Surely they had identified and fixed this...after the stamina and stat_heat bugs, surely they went through to check to see that all unit stats actually worked as designed. If they didn't then they are just plain sloppy. I can easily understand the other original bugs, but this one is the straw...or perhaps bail of hay...that broke the camel's back.

Heck, they now have to REBALANCE the WHOLE GAME! None of the base Roman units are right in their attack. Instead of "7" they are getting 11. No wonder they cut through Iberian infantry like they were unarmed peasants. You can imagine what this must be doing to autocalc. No wonder I found infantry useless vs. Rome when playing Carthage. Playing as Rome is going to become a lot tougher when this is fixed.

That is a good thing.

It had been obvious that traditional infantry was getting the shaft, but only now is the extent of the problem becoming clear.