Teasers

[khelvan]

As I have stated in the past, we can't really give a detailed list of "changes" because in most instances, we're starting from the ground up. When we first release the mod, some portions may not yet be ready, such as our complete new building & temple system, so we may use the vanilla portion until that area is ready. However, in the end, all aspects of the mod will look completely different.

So, having said that, I wanted to give you a little teaser to look forward to. Some have asked for more "diversity" in the barbarian factions. All of our factions will be very diverse. With a self-imposed limit of 12 unique units per faction, we're still struggling to come in under the 300-unit limit that CA arbitrarily imposed. Here is a preview (i.e. not the final version) of the Briton list, in period language:

Belgae Milnaht (Mel-not)
Clyddynion (Cli-thin-ee-on)
Clyddbren (Clith-bron)
Egyddynion (Egg-ith-un-ee-on)
Ffonddynion (Fon-thin-ee-on)
Laoch (Lay-ok-ah)
Maliwyr Charde (Mall-ee-wir Chard-eh)
Rhyfelwyr (Rh-eye-vell-wir)
Rycalawre (Rie-call-a-oo-ree)
Boccydau (Bock-see-deh)
Cidainh (Kid-unk)
Drwmcydau (Drum-key-deh)

The Belgae Milnaht are shared with another faction (Gauls), as well as a mercenary unit, so it does not have the specific name. Just to give you a little more to look foward to, here is a preview of the Belgae Milnaht (with both Briton and Gallic skins; note the woad patterns!):





Cheers,

-khel

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

WOW!

I.

Cannot.

Wait.



If I can buy you guys a drink or maybe some cannolis, I would be happy to.

[Big_John]

psst.. offer to buy them "female entertainment"..

[thrashaholic]

Sorry to be an absolute bore, but your phoenetic spellings of those ancient British words (which seem to be based on Welsh) are wrong, here are some corrections for you:

Clyddynion (Cli-thin-ee-on)
Clyddbren (Clith-bron)
Egyddynion (Egg-ith-un-ee-on)
Ffonddynion (Fon-thin-ee-on)
Laoch (La-och){nb. the ch should be as in a Scottish 'loch' or 'JS Bach'
Maliwyr Charde (Mall-ee-wir Chard-eh){nb. 'ch' as above}
Rhyfelwyr (Rh-eye-vell-wir){nb. 'rh' should be pronounced as 'r' followed by a strong emission of breath}
Rycalawre (Rie-call-a-oo-re)
Boccydau (Bock-see-deh)
Cidainh (Sid-ank){this looks Gaelic, which I don't know about, so I'll leave it}
Drwmcydau (Drum-key-deh)

Welsh is a completely phoentic language, unlike English, so all letters are said and are never propounced obscurely (if you see what I mean by this). I hope this helps, especially if you're doing in game voice re-recordings. Please don't get it wrong though, I've been looking forward to this mod too much to have spoiled by poor pronunciation ; if you have any queries about any other British words though don't hesitate to ask.


Bloody good work on the new units, they look absolutely stunning!

[Ranika]

Actually, the pronunciations aren't based on Welsh, but they are based on a P-Celtic language. I considered using Welsh, but opted not to use it. If it is preferrable, I can change pronunciations, but I just didn't like the way they sounded, mostly. And Laoch is not used in the P-Celtic sense, that's a Q-Celtic word, and Cidainh is a K-Celtic word (but also shows up in Q-Celtic languages).

Welsh may be easier to pronounce, but I used something based on the old Strathclyder dialects, before the Gaelic influences from Dal Riatans. Though, it's mostly reconstructed. Modern Welsh has non-Celtic influences, I kind of wanted to avoid them, but since we're doing a voice mod, I still might change it to Welsh pronunciations, solely to make it easier. The Strathclyder Briton-stuff sounds kind of weird, but it's also older. However, in retrospect...it's goddamn difficult to pronounce a lot of words in it.

For folks who don't get the P, Q, and K stuff; Celtic languages are in three families. P-Celtic, Q-Celtic, and K-Celtic. Of them, K-Celtic languages no longer exist, but that's what Gauls spoke. Q-Celtic are languages like Gaelic. Bretonic and Welsh are P-Celtic. While languages within the families are relatively similar (differences lay in pronunciations and spellings, but one can usually feel through similar languages), the similarities outside of families (Q to P or K) are scant, and one cannot understand a different family of languages remotely through any of a different family of the languages.

As an aside, I've been reconstructing the Strathclyder dialect myself. If you have a lot of experience with P-Celtic languages (not just Welsh, preferrably), it'd be really helpful.

[thrashaholic]

Admittedly modern Welsh has been influenced by other languages, Latin and Norman French mostly and the Goidelic tounges slighty, but it is by far and a way the most authentic Brythonic language around. Other than Welsh there is Breton, but that has been extensively corrupted by French, and, as you say, reconstructions of Cornish and Cumbrian, the real versions of which died out ceturies ago. Personally, because of this, I'd choose to use Welsh, but it's your mod, so your call in end.