Retinues make faster unit production

[Lichgod]

This was new to me, never read about it either, when I noticed I was producing units in one turn that normally take two turns. I figured out that having retinues that give bonuses to reduce unit cost ALSO reduce unit production time. I noticed that adding retinue until I reached 50% discount on cost also reduced the build time for two turn units down to one turn.

Tested this with a 40% discount. The time returned to two turns to produce. I do not know if the ships taking three or four turns will produce faster with less than 50% but can test this out tonight. I expect the production time is modified by the discount with fractions rounded up.

I found this out playing Seleucids. I have Antioch making a bronze chevron/silver shield/silver sword Cataphract every turn. I am currently using Rome: Total Realism 4.1, large units, hard battles, and very hard campaign.

If interested, I can check which retinue is giving the bonuses. I know I have a priest that gives 10%, mercenary captain 10%, a Hero for 20%, and (I think) the drill master for 10%.

I feel like the last person in the world to realize this. Might even be in the game manual if I had taken time to read it. (My first thread here!)

[Nelson]

I had no idea. It's very rare to have a 50% bonus because moving the retinues across a vast empire can be such a pain. This certainly makes it worthwhile to concentrate those skills in the right city.

[Basileus]

This has happend to me to but i thought it was my mind playing tricks on me and didnt give it another thought heh, nice find.

[Simetrical]

Wow, that's pretty cool. I wonder what happens if your discounts total up to 100%?

Decorated Hero: –20%
Drillmaster: –10%
Lanista: –10%
Master Smith: –10%
Mercenary Captain: –10%
Priest of Vulcan: –10%

Drat, looks like a max of –70%. Anyone up for further testing? You could add a few more ancillaries/traits and then cheat to get them all. I expect there's a hard-coded cap of some sort, but you never know!

-Simetrical

[Simetrical]

By the way, maybe this should be moved to the Ludus Magna.

-Simetrical

[zhuge]

Looked at the ancillary file by geraldtan and came up with:
Famous warrior - 10%
Priest of Teutatis - 10%
Priest of Vahagan - 10%
Priest of Zalmoxis - 10%

I'm not completely sure if these stack with the other ancillaries though... and 1 general is limited to only 8 ancillaries...
Also checked traits but there don't seem to be any which reduce unit cost.

Still... an interesting topic.

EDIT: Noticed that Beastmaster, Priest of Artemis and Priest of Hephaestus get Effect TrainingAnimalUnits x, where x is a particular number. Not sure if these can stack with the above...