Retinues make faster unit production

**Basileus** · 01-19-2005, 16:50

This has happend to me to but i thought it was my mind playing tricks on me and didnt give it another thought heh, nice find.

**Simetrical** · 01-19-2005, 22:21

Wow, that's pretty cool. I wonder what happens if your discounts total up to 100%?

Decorated Hero: –20%
Drillmaster: –10%
Lanista: –10%
Master Smith: –10%
Mercenary Captain: –10%
Priest of Vulcan: –10%

Drat, looks like a max of –70%. Anyone up for further testing? You could add a few more ancillaries/traits and then cheat to get them all. I expect there's a hard-coded cap of some sort, but you never know!

-Simetrical

**Simetrical** · 01-19-2005, 22:25

By the way, maybe this should be moved to the Ludus Magna.

-Simetrical

**zhuge** · 01-19-2005, 22:51

Looked at the ancillary file by geraldtan and came up with:
Famous warrior - 10%
Priest of Teutatis - 10%
Priest of Vahagan - 10%
Priest of Zalmoxis - 10%

I'm not completely sure if these stack with the other ancillaries though... and 1 general is limited to only 8 ancillaries...
Also checked traits but there don't seem to be any which reduce unit cost.

Still... an interesting topic.

EDIT: Noticed that Beastmaster, Priest of Artemis and Priest of Hephaestus get Effect TrainingAnimalUnits x, where x is a particular number. Not sure if these can stack with the above...

**Simetrical** · 01-20-2005, 22:14

I excluded those because Famous Warrior and Decorated Hero are mutually exclusive, and Romans can't normally get the priests, but on reflection, you could cheat for the priests just as easily as anything else. (The restrictions regarding Romans not being able to get the priests are part of their triggers, not the ancillaries themselves.)

-Simetrical

**hrvojej** · 01-21-2005, 00:57

You can bribe people to get the ancillaries your faction cannot normally get. It would require quite a bit of luck to get them, but I guess it's doable.

**sunsmountain** · 01-21-2005, 01:40

Usually units that take 2 turns to produce have a high upkeep (with some exceptions) so I dont plan to produce many of them. In order to make many big stacks you cant go all urban cohort, for example.

But thanks to this tip this strategy (top-units only) can be effectively executed as you churn out them cohorts. I guess it would work well, based on attrition alone.