Hello, May I please have some help with a problem?

[CondorFalco]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have encountered whilst modding the start parameters for the Julii in the Imperial Campaign.

What happens is, when I try to load the Imperial Campaign with the Julii, the game won't load, and it tells me that "Lucius the Great is a named character has no father and is not married, and therefore has no links with the family tree". Here is the extract from the descr_strat.txt file:

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character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 47, , x 94, y 90
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries aged_retainer
army
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character Lucius Julius, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 21, , x 91, y 80
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries freeman_clerk
army
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relative Flavius Julius, Faustina, Lucius Julius, Kaeso Julius, Quintus Julius, Vibius Julius, end
relative Lucius Julius, Poppaea, Fadia, Marcus Julius, end
relative Kaeso Julius, Cornelia, Appius Julius, end
relative Quintus Julius, Alypia, Amulius Julius, end
relative Vibius Julius, Claudia, Manius Julius, end

I have modified all of the starting land generals character's traits and added 2 new provinces to the Julii at the start, as well as beefed up the armies of each general (I was doing this for a bit of fun). I have also descreased the age of many of the generals so the live for longer.


I hope someone can help,

Thank you,

CondorFalco

[dhague]

Quick guess: You need to specify Lucius as "heir" just after "named character". Also make sure the "ages" within each family are reasonable (eg. minimum of one year between children and a child is at least about 16 years younger than the father and about 12-14 years younger than the mother).

[CondorFalco]

Unfortunately, that did not work, but thanks for the advice.

The error message keeps comming up saying: "Lucius the Great is a named character, isn't the faction head, has no father, and isn't married, and therefore has no connections with the family tree, which isn't a good thing. Only the faction head (or dead leader) can have no father."

Here is the updated file:


character Flavius Julius, named character, leader, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 47, , x 94, y 90
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries aged_retainer
army
...

character Lucius Julius, named character, heir, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 21, , x 91, y 80
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries freeman_clerk
army
...

character Kaeso Julius, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 19, , x 83, y 84
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries merchant
army
...

character Quintus Julius, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, , x 96, y 82
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries drillmaster
army
...

character Sextus Antio, diplomat, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, , x 93, y 78
traits NaturalDiplomatSkill 3, GoodDiplomat 5

character Decius Curtius, spy, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, , x 95, y 83
traits NaturalSpySkill 3, GoodSpy 5

character Oppius Clausus, admiral, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, , x 86, y 78
army
...
character Vibius Julius, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 17, , x 88, y 81
traits GoodCommander 5, NaturalMilitarySkill 4, GoodDefender 5, PoliticsSkill 3, GoodAdministrator 3, Austere 3, GoodAttacker 5, GoodAmbusher 3, GoodSiegeAttacker 4, GoodSiegeDefender 4, Brave 5, Energetic 4, Warlord 4, InspiringSpeaker 3, RhetoricSkill 3, StrategicSkill 3, TacticalSkill 3, MathematicsSkill 3, NaturalPhilosophySkill 3, LogisticalSkill 3, PhilosophySkill 3, Rabblerouser 4, ArchitectSkill 3, SpyMaster 3, AssassinMaster 3, CounterSpy 3, AssassinCatcher 3, HighPersonalSecurity 3, Upright 3, Loyal 4, FaithfulWife 1, GoodFarmer 3, GoodMiner 3, GoodEngineer 3, GoodTrader 3, Just 3, KindRuler 3, GoodBuilder 3, GamesFanRomanVice 3, PlainRomanVirtue 3, Noctophilia 3, Scout 3, Secretive 3, GoodInfantryGeneral 3, GoodCavalryGeneral 3, Handsome 4, Fertile 3, WellConnectedWife 3, GoodRiskyAttacker 3, Sailor 5, GoodRiskyDefender 3, HaleAndHearty 3, Sane 1, RomanHero 5, Intelligent 3
ancillaries merchant
army
...

character_record Marcus Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 4, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Appius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 3, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Amulius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 2, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Manius Julius, male, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 1, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Faustina, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 40, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Poppaea, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Alypia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Claudia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, alive, never_a_leader
character_record Cornelia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, alive
never_a_leader
character_record Fadia, female, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 2, alive, never_a_leader

relative Flavius Julius, Faustina, Lucius Julius, Kaeso Julius, Quintus Julius, Vibius Julius, end
relative Lucius Julius, Poppaea, Fadia, Marcus Julius, end
relative Kaeso Julius, Cornelia, Appius Julius, end
relative Quintus Julius, Alypia, Amulius Julius, end
relative Vibius Julius, Claudia, Manius Julius, end

[dhague]

Last suggestion before you have to rebuild the "family" from scratch. Does each "relative" line have a "space-tab" before you start the names?? Good Luck!

[Monkwarrior]

The error message keeps comming up saying: "Lucius the Great is a named character, isn't the faction head, has no father, and isn't married, and therefore has no connections with the family tree, which isn't a good thing. Only the faction head (or dead leader) can have no father."

First (dumm perhaps) doubt: Are you sure that Lucius the Great is from the Julii family? Is it called the Great because of their skills?

In case all that is correct, the only possibility I can guess is that you miss some tab or space.

Suggestion: make another file eliminating the traits and work with it until you find the lost space/tab.

Good luck!

[CondorFalco]

Thank you both for your help, I have managed to get the game working again with my modifications. I had missed a space/tab in the relatives section.

Thank you again for your help,

CondorFalco out.