Justification and Calls to Kill Americans

**Devastatin Dave** · 01-31-2005, 01:08

Originally Posted by ColdKnight

I find this very disturbing and quite unsetteling to think that some people actually believe that other nations deserve terrorism. No nation on earth, not even if their your sworn enemy, deserves terrorism or any violent activities like terrorism. The slaughter of innocents in a non war time situation is never, never warrented or deserved.

I could introduce you to a few that believe that, just click on the "backroom" you'll find plenty of them in there.

**IrishMike** · 01-31-2005, 01:44

Yes I know, I have seen this. As I said before I find it very disturbing, and I can not understand the reasons behind such thinking. After all we all are human beings, and are not all humans deserving of one anothers understanding, and compassion, no matter how different we are from another in times of peace.

**SwordsMaster** · 01-31-2005, 02:00

Originally Posted by ColdKnight

Yes I know, I have seen this. As I said before I find it very disturbing, and I can not understand the reasons behind such thinking. After all we all are human beings, and are not all humans deserving of one anothers understanding, and compassion, no matter how different we are from another in times of peace.

That is hippie

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Seriously though. IIRC the conversation was about how the US "farmed" Bin Laden and how he turned back on them when they abandoned him. They did deserve it from that point of view. I´m not justifying the loss of lives and the actual massacre, but the call to attention. The reminder of that all actions have consequences even if you are the US.

Don´t take me wrong, if you are offended, you are in your right to be so, and then the post should be removed, I´m just trying to show how it actually could make sense without being offensive.

Besides, shouldn´t that kind of threads belong to the Backroom?

**IrishMike** · 01-31-2005, 02:09

Didn't mean to sound hippy. Just saying all this terrorism crap is uncalled for in peace. Now in war its a different story, as I have been a fan of the theory of total war. Pray for peace, but be ruthless in war.

The US is always going to be the major target aslong as we are the major mover and shaker in the world. Just like if the British Empire was still around, they would be the major target of critisim. I would just like others to be a little more sensitive in putting their thoughts into words, no need to stab a already sore wound.

**Devastatin Dave** · 01-31-2005, 02:50

Originally Posted by ColdKnight

I would just like others to be a little more sensitive in putting their thoughts into words, no need to stab a already sore wound.

I disagree, I prefer to know the true feelings of those who say such things. But at the same time, they should be as equaly punished as those that aren't anti-American, anti-capitalist, etc for such infractions. But, even if certain members of the mod and leftist members of this community don't recognize this blantant attacks, the same standards do not apply.

**Byzantine Prince** · 01-31-2005, 03:34

I don't think anyone ever said that the killing of innocent people was justified. I specifically wrote that the targeting of leaders and the people who made these mistakes would not be such a huge backlash. Let's face it this administration has failed in every way possible and listening to them talk about their dicisions oozes with incompetence. I think most of the world has realized this.

Also Americans need to stop acting as if every muslim country is filled uneducated barbarians that they wouldn't mind killing off. Their lives matter as much as yours. IF you kill 100,000 of them you shouldn't expect no backlash in return. If you support an invasive and outright terrorist state such as Israel (that controls the 3rd most important site in Islam) then you shouldn't expect no backlash. People all over the world have suffered greatly because of America's medling ways. How about asking the UN or NATO once in a while. Would that be so bad.

Here's a little count of all the people that were needlessly killed:

Germany: 1 million civilian dead even after the surrender. Reason: Negligence
Korea: 4 million Koreans died in 3 years(1950-1953). Reason: NONE
Vietnam: 3 million Viets dead Reason: NONE
Iraq: 100,000 and counting mostly civilian population dead in 2 years.

Oh yeah and this is not to mention all the poor Indians you wiped off the face of the Earth.

**PanzerJaeger** · 01-31-2005, 04:30

Your entire post was a justification for killing americans. In fact, you said we deserve another attack. You might not be able to comprehend it, but your hate filled words can and have translated into hatefilled actions abroad. People look for justification before they kill innocents because even they know its fundementally wrong, your kind of language gives murderers a moral highground.

I believe that if this kind of hate mongering is allowed, it will set a very bad precident. Sure no one cares if someone is talking about how good it was that evil empirialist americans were killed, but if thats ok whats to stop someone for justifying the killing of Christians or Jews...

**Devastatin Dave** · 01-31-2005, 04:41

Originally Posted by Byzantine_Prince

I don't think anyone ever said that the killing of innocent people was justified. I specifically wrote that the targeting of leaders and the people who made these mistakes would not be such a huge backlash. Let's face it this administration has failed in every way possible and listening to them talk about their dicisions oozes with incompetence. I think most of the world has realized this.

Also Americans need to stop acting as if every muslim country is filled uneducated barbarians that they wouldn't mind killing off. Their lives matter as much as yours. IF you kill 100,000 of them you shouldn't expect no backlash in return. If you support an invasive and outright terrorist state such as Israel (that controls the 3rd most important site in Islam) then you shouldn't expect no backlash. People all over the world have suffered greatly because of America's medling ways. How about asking the UN or NATO once in a while. Would that be so bad.

Here's a little count of all the people that were needlessly killed:

Germany: 1 million civilian dead even after the surrender. Reason: Negligence
Korea: 4 million Koreans died in 3 years(1950-1953). Reason: NONE
Vietnam: 3 million Viets dead Reason: NONE
Iraq: 100,000 and counting mostly civilian population dead in 2 years.

Oh yeah and this is not to mention all the poor Indians you wiped off the face of the Earth.

Keep your anti American hatred in the backroom where such behavior is allowed.