What's the best way to use javelins?

**Graphic** · 02-03-2005, 11:24

I tried some of these tips.

so basically hold a unit in place with spears and when they're screwing around with them, move the javs around and hit their rear. it worked, and man what a satisfying sight seeing the javs connect and wipe 1/3 of their unit out in one volley.

thanks guys

**mfberg** · 02-03-2005, 16:18

Exactly. Another use with fast javelins is to use two units to surround a normal speed armoured foot unit (VG and Joms in VI are my favorites to do this against) and use them on skirmish to chase the foot unit first from one side, then the other. You can cause them to rout after about 3 volleys.

mfberg

**Procrustes** · 02-03-2005, 19:42

I love javelins - very deadly. I don't put them in front of my troops anymore - their range is short and they take a moment to aim and fire - I had them overrun a couple of times. Now I keep them behind my infantry line. They are still very effective if you have them fire over your troops into the melee. Even better if you can keep a couple of them unengaged, and then after the melee has started run them around for a clear shot at the enemy. Try to target knights and heavy cavalry - they go through any armor.

I really like it when I get to use them in a bridge battle. Plug the bridge with some heavy infantry, then march your javs in behind them and arc your fire. Since the front line is constricted by the bridge they will keep up their fire for some time, and will just wear away every unit the AI throws at you.

Best,

P.

**Red Harvest** · 02-04-2005, 07:07

With the patch they are actually useful. They are functioning as skirmishers because friendly fire has been fixed, so you don't have to shut off fire-at-will and skirmish mode.

**Graphic** · 02-04-2005, 09:25

Originally Posted by Red Harvest

With the patch they are actually useful. They are functioning as skirmishers because friendly fire has been fixed, so you don't have to shut off fire-at-will and skirmish mode.

Well last night I remembered to install the patch on VI because I installed it when I didn't have internet on and just forgot, so I'll see if they've gotten even better.

**RollingWave** · 02-04-2005, 15:56

Well I personally find it the other way around... they are much more useful in MTW than RTW (though they seem to have longer range in RTW)

The main problem is in RTW arrows are very effective vs pretty much anything, in MTW except for longbows and crossbow types the rest hardly dent any of the later heavy armored units....

That's where javlin comes in... they have a much much higher armor piercing rating (in fact they look like one hit kill) so basically just tie up those expensive knights/kings/katanks then unless massive javlin on them. trading ur folder for their king is always worthwhile.... espically those 9 star katank byzantian jedis that can kill a full army by themself XD....

**Kekvit Irae** · 02-04-2005, 16:03

Personally, I dont use javalins (or Irish dartmen/spearthrowers) in my own juggernaughts, but rather I keep them as garrison troops along with urban militia. The javalins, by being cannon fodder, allows you to drain the enemy of their ammo, allowing your infantry to advance without fear of getting cut down before they reacht the main force. Use light/heavy cavalry to flank any infantry/cavalry who are going to overrun your javalins.