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    Default Marius Reforms question

    Is it possible to assign "and marian_reforms" (in the export_descr_buildings.txt) to non-roman factions and have the units work when the Romans get the "Gaius Marius Reforms" event (and ofcourse they won't be buildable before it)?
    Has anyone tested this yet?

    I personally would like to assign Silver Shield, Armenian and Numidian Legionaries to the event and rather not see the Seleucids, Armenians and Numidians running around with these units before the Romans get their Legionaries.

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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    Yes, any unit or building can use this as a requirement.
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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    Cheers! Thanks for the reply.

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    Default Re : Marius Reforms question

    I have another question about the Marian reform.

    Is it possible to change the date of the trigger ?
    In descr_events, there's
    ";event a_new_man__gaius_marius
    ;date 154 summer"

    Obviously, it is the trigger for the Marius reform. But what are the ';' for ? Are they relevant to the trigger, or can I change the date with no fear ?

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    Default Re: Re : Marius Reforms question

    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil
    I have another question about the Marian reform.

    Is it possible to change the date of the trigger ?
    In descr_events, there's
    ";event a_new_man__gaius_marius
    ;date 154 summer"

    Obviously, it is the trigger for the Marius reform. But what are the ';' for ? Are they relevant to the trigger, or can I change the date with no fear ?

    You notice the semi-colon before this... it is commented out so this event does not occur... I think it is a legacy entry from before the addition of the dynamically determined Marius Reforms date...

    Wonder if it would still work if you uncommented it?

    Perhaps yu could make the construction of Imperial places then dependant on the Marius event itself forcing it to occur on a specific date???

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    Default Re : Marius Reforms question

    Well, what I'd like to do is to have a kind of reform event for hellenistic faction in the Successors TW mod.

    I haven't played RTW 1.2 so I don't really know how does the reform work now, but I think that a roman faction must build the reform building (governor's palace) in Italy so the reform happens. Is that true ?

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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    It is triggered by the building of an Imperial Place in the Roman homelands, but can not occur before 220BC and apparantly has an additional random element because people have reported meeting the first two requirements without yet getting the Marius event..

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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    Don't add the Numidian and Armenian legionaries to the Marius list. They are 'only' Principes in effect. But the Silver Shields are of course perfectly ok. In fact I think I will add them myself.
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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    Still Kraxis i.m.o. it looks odd seeing Armenian and Numidian Legionaries walking around before the Romans get such Legionaries. It makes the Marius Reforms also more interesting this way.

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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    how delete marian reform from game ??
    i don't need this reform
    also in patch 1.2 rebels not work with marian reforms and game have ctd.

    who know how delete this reform ??????????????????????????
    what i need for it ??????????

    or how fix bug from patch 1.2 with rebels and marian reform ctd with rebels fraction ????
    Last edited by vlad 1; 02-19-2005 at 16:52.

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    is not a senior Member Meneldil's Avatar
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    Default Re : Marius Reforms question

    While looking through vanilla RTW files, I noticed an "italy" ressource in some provinces (guess what, in Italian provinces).

    Anyway, that might be the way to allow other faction to trigger the Marius reform : adding the Italy ressource in their provinces.

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    Default Re: Re : Marius Reforms question

    I noticed that too, though if you try to add it to a provincial campaign, it crashed for me...

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    Default Re: Marius Reforms question

    Quote Originally Posted by [DnC]
    Still Kraxis i.m.o. it looks odd seeing Armenian and Numidian Legionaries walking around before the Romans get such Legionaries. It makes the Marius Reforms also more interesting this way.
    Since most immitation legionaries were in fact created long before Marius was even born I think it is fair to let the Armenians and Numidians get them as their stats fit that. The Silvers Shield on the other hand are made into imperial style cohorts so they would have to stay on the other side.
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