Protectorates anyone ???

[Dutch_guy]

I know it's said in the readme of the patch that it's fixed, but does anyone here have any experience with protectorates in the patch, I mean do they actually pay YOU tribute instead of you paying them...

[_Aetius_]

Im yet to get a faction to become a protectorate even when they had just one city left and i had massive armies around it, seems abit pointless really

[Ellesthyan]

What Aetius has said doesn't apply to the patch in my experience. The AI makes himself nummerous protectorates: Im now a few decades in a Parthian campaign and the Gauls have Germany as protectorate and the Macedonians have Thrace... Germany is at its starting provinces, while Thrace holds its home and Byzantium, wich I presume was returned by the Macedonians when Thrace became a protectorate.

[Wishazu]

what exactly does having a protectorate do for you?

[master of the puppets]

having a protectorate means you get there armies and thats it, they drain your treasury and you have to save there butts

also don't expect to beat them into subbmision and them just joining you. the only protectorate i ever got was one who was getting killed without my help. they were getting killed by the other easterners, i offered my help, they took it, i marched over and saved them by dominating parthia.

except to pacify the senate i think its just a nuisance

[Wishazu]

when you say get their armies do you mean i can train their troop types or just command their armies in the field?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

"Österreich über alles!"
For some reason, I doubt that.

[Ellesthyan]

Well, they do live on a few very high mountains...

[Paul Peru]

I (Carth, 1.2) got myself a protectorate last night.
Gaul would have no ceasefire, but grudgingly accepted protectorate status.
We had been at war for decades, but neither had conquered any provinces.
They were not my main priority, so I just beat back a few attacks on Corduba and kept their fleets off the Med. The Gauls seemed to be doing mostly OK, but the Romans were starting to cause them trouble when they joined my racket
I'm not sure if my treasury was affected in any way, at least initially.
Being a softy and a do-gooder I spent 65K bribing a Julii general who was besieging my new friends in Patavium. Then I used the general to initiate an attack on the smaller Julii stack next to the one I bribed, getting support from the city. I was looking forward to hang around behind Roman lines, trampling velites and routers, but instead i got a CTD (which is very rare), and went to bed.

[m4rt14n]

I made a couple protectorates in 1.2. The first one was Pontus, Thrace.
Didnt check whether their cities add to your total cities. There was no more of your money being spent to paying them for being your protectorate. However, I could not see any influx into my cash funds from their end. The tributes/diplomacy stayed 0.

I also checked the amount of money gained before havin a protectorate and after. I could not see any difference. ???

Also, it is really a waste of time. In one instance I made Pontus my protectorate, then the next couple of turns I attacked Parthia, which is somehow allied to Pontus. lo and behold, Pontus decided that they should cancel their protectorate status with me and support Parthia.. So next time, make sure the faction dont have any alliance status with any other faction when u assign them as ur protectorate.

[Colovion]

So basically they fixed the Protectorate Bug but left them having no function?

buh?

[m4rt14n]

As far as I can tell. If someone else can run a test with Protectorates it would be really great. I only use them to serve as permanent buffer zones with a strong enemy.

That, and I guess you can give ur protectorates lands on the outskirts of your territories. You know those faraway lands that generates like 100 gold but requiring 1000 to fortify...

[The Stranger]

As far as I can tell. If someone else can run a test with Protectorates it would be really great. I only use them to serve as permanent buffer zones with a strong enemy.

That, and I guess you can give ur protectorates lands on the outskirts of your territories. You know those faraway lands that generates like 100 gold but requiring 1000 to fortify...

the best way for testing is mod the desc strat thing and give a faction lots of money start war and offer them money in return of protectocrate
this is a fast way to test if you loose money and if they can attack you cause money bought protection usually doesn't last long

[Boohugh]

I have made Macedon a protectorate as Scipii in a new 1.2 campaign and they definitely don't take your money. I'm fairly sure, however, they do give you some of their money. I recieved a huge (about 80000) lump sum on the first turn, and am receiving about smaller amount (6000-8000) every turn since. It shows up under the diplomacy/tribute section of your balance sheet. Their territories also count towards your total.

I've only had them as a protectorate for a few turns, so I'll report back if anything interesting happens after I've played a bit more.