Marian Reforms

[m4rt14n]

Anyone succesfully get the Marian Reforms yet?
I have no idea when the date for it post patch. It's been really painful slogging away in Egypt with Hastatis/Principes....

[vs the world]

I believe the 1.2 date is 220bc?

[fret]

The earliest they can happen is 220BC, I think the requirement for triggering is now to build an Imp Palace on the Italian Peninsular - although I havent confirmed that yet myself, i just read it somewhere.

[Catiline]

Anyone succesfully get the Marian Reforms yet?
I have no idea when the date for it post patch. It's been really painful slogging away in Egypt with Hastatis/Principes....

Sounds like a great improvement. My triarii took a real battering against the Greeks last night

[Akka]

Yep, had it.

Around 210-200 BC.

[Flatulus Maximus]

Hello guys, I just thought I'd jump in here if you don't mind the intrusion. The Marian reforms are tied to development of your largest city and not to any time period specifically, though I suppose that growth would coincide with the approximate time periods you suggested.

Being the curious soul that I am, I've used the population, money & build cheat to discover the temple benefits for the various cultures. I was doing this with the Scippio when on the (first) turn I got the Marius reform, just after I built the largest Scriptorium. I'm not sure if it was the Scriptorium or the number of advanced buildings in the city but I rang the bell on turn one...

[Ellesthyan]

Flatulus, was this before or after the patch? It shouldn't happen before 220 BC...

[Claudius Maniacus Sextus]

this is A hard blow to romans!!!

it happens at 220BC

[Old Celt]

I found in a response from CA staff on another website, the required conditions for the Marius reforms:

Build an Imperial Palace on the Italian Peninsula.

The reform cannot take place until at least 220 BC.


That's it.

[fret]

Regarding those conditions, does anyone know if Patavium s considered to be on the peninsular?

[Akka]

What does happen if all the italian cities already have an imperial palace by 220 ?

[Flatulus Maximus]

Ellesthyan, I found this to be the case before the 1.2 patch. In truth I haven't even patched yet. From all I'm reading I should though.

[hundurinn]

Strange. I built an Imperial Palace around 220 BC. in Italia as Bruti and the reform didn't happed until 196 BC.

[NightStar]

I'm playing as the Julii and I just got the Marian reforms 220 bc. I hadn't even built the imperial palace yet....some other fellow roman helped me with that. I am having great fun playing with the 1.2 patch, the romans don't steamroller everyone now. The Brutii are taking a beating and the Thracians and Macedonians have been slowly taking over their cities, the Scipii have just taken Carthage but haven't advanced further into africa.

As the Julii I have been fighting against the Spanish, Britons and Gauls and it has been kind of a stalemate. The Marius reforms will help me get on the offensive again. It has been fun fighting stacks of chosen swordsmen, bull warriors and chariots with mostly Hastati and Principes, especially now after the secondary weapon bug has been fixed.

[m4rt14n]

Sometimes I want my old uber legions back....

ah well. They should at least come up with different time periods. I hate to wait until 220 BC to do some serious ass kicking.

Anyone finds that Britain is now impossible to beat with auto-solving? I had to lead all my battles now as the Scipii to gain any of their cities... even with 10:1 advantage and on M/M.

[Octavius Julius]

I think the idea of building an imperial palace to trigger a Marian reform is stupid. In reality, the Marian reforms happened about 100 bc.

I think the trigger should be that if one of your family (or other Roman family) is called Marius, and he has won a few "epic" battles, then there should be a Marian reform. What's the point having a Marian reform if you have a huge temple?