Quote Originally Posted by BobTheTerrible
I'm sorry but why do so many people refer to Rome: Total War as being still in beta? This here really boils my potatoes. The game is definately not a beta. Just because the game didn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean that it's still a beta. There are bugs, yes, but medieval wasn't perfect either. I think all of you complainers want the game to be just like medieval. Well, it's a different game, folks. Don't just make posts here to bash CA. It really ruins things for me when I come to the boards here, and just see post after post about how bad the game is.

I mean, I haven't seen any of the veteran posters start up a thread about something they like about the game. I have yet to see a thread about how fun it is just to watch men swordfight (and even writing this I know someone will counter with "it's hard to watch the sowrdfight when it's over in 5 seconds" or even "well the hastati behaving ahistorically so it takes the fun out")

Almost every single game on the market has bugs. Many games have worse AI than Rome's. In fact, Rome is the only game of its type out now (to my knwoledge) so if you don't like it, don't just make post after post ripping it apart. It's just a game guys, if you don't like it, there's no reason to be bashing CA over it. Nobody forced you to buy the game, so you shouldn't be angry at CA for taking your money for a "broken product." Again, if you don't like it, either mod it or leave it, don't dwell on it to make it worse for others.

You Newbies make me want to throw up!

It really ruins things for me when I come to the boards here, and just see post after post about how bad the game is.
I bet you went to a school without competitive sports, where everybody was a winner....

Guess what?

All you people who are so happy, satisfied and devoid of deep thinking, ruin this forum for me.

So now what?

There are bugs, yes, but medieval wasn't perfect either. I think all of you complainers want the game to be just like medieval.
Wrong. We simply want it to be BETTER than STW/MTW. It ain't!

I mean, I haven't seen any of the veteran posters start up a thread about something they like about the game.
What does that tell you? Maybe there isn't much.

I have yet to see a thread about how fun it is just to watch men swordfight (and even writing this I know someone will counter with "it's hard to watch the sowrdfight when it's over in 5 seconds" or even "well the hastati behaving ahistorically so it takes the fun out")
FIRST, I didn't buy the game to watch the sword fights. Duh!

SECOND, Newbie why don't you do a search of the STW archives, you may have to ask Tosa to upload them. If you can get the Search function to work and the archives are there, you will find a post by me, ToranagaSama, exclaming wonder at the sprite animations, how the sprites parry and retreat, blah, blah...

In your search, you'll also find a BUNCH of other *awe-struck* posts by the now Veterans.

NEWSFLASH: Despite RTW's 3D graphics, STW's sprites have BETTER animations!

Summing up: Why do you expect and demand Veterans to ack like Newbies? We've been there and done that. Do you get the logic here?

Almost every single game on the market has bugs. Many games have worse AI than Rome's. In fact, Rome is the only game of its type out now (to my knwoledge) so if you don't like it, don't just make post after post ripping it apart. It's just a game guys, if you don't like it, there's no reason to be bashing CA over it. Nobody forced you to buy the game, so you shouldn't be angry at CA for taking your money for a "broken product." Again, if you don't like it, either mod it or leave it, don't dwell on it to make it worse for others.
Throwing it right back at ya. If you don't like the so-called bashing, then WHY do you read it?

BTW and JFYI, Rome is not the ONLY game of its type out now. There are TWO others, namely Shogun: Total War and Medieval: Total War. Did you miss those?

Dude, its just a forum, there are other forums aren't there? Nobody is forcing you to read the posts.

FIRST, CA effected the cause for verterans to purchase the game. They did so by raising our expectations and NOT informing us that RTW would have SIGNIFICANT differences than STW and MTW.

It could be argued that CA won our Loyality then Betrayed us....

LASTLY, why are you making it worse for ME??

It goes both ways, if all you folks coming out of the woodworks and who seem so satisfied choose to agree or defer to Veteran opinion and experience THEN CA/Activision might just be compelled to FIX this game. Specifically, everything effecting battle speed(/high tactics).

For the most part you people are satisfied, yet we are not. So, ahhh, whose experience is being ruined?

Unmodifed, the game is unplayable.

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I mean really, aside from discussing the *Bugs* and work-arounds, what is there to talk about?

We used to talk MOSTLY about TACTICS, but DUH!, there are NO tactics....

Think about it this way, for many of us, myself in particular, the single most important aspect of the game as been....ahhhh.... nullified, taken away, gone, kaput, evaporated!!! (High Tactical Maneuvers)

The second most important part (Stragegic) is plagued by Headless Armies and Purposeless Armies.

The purpose of the Strategy Map is to give MEANING to the Battles. THIS is what is significant and revolutionary about Total War---NOT the 3D Graphics.

So what's the problem? Most of the battles are MEANINGLESS and ANNOYING!!

Soooo, ahhhh, I'm supposed to happy about what exactly? The 3D graphics????

Pleasseeee, gimme back the Sprites and the 2D Map....

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Originally Posted by Daevyll
I think the main reason people here complain so much about RTW is because it is so very nearly the game we all want.

It is frustrating to see a game come so close, yet failing on just enough points to make you want to cry.


Think of a lost race; if you lose by a mile, you'll get over it a lot quicker than if you lose by a handswidth.