In beta?

[BobTheTerrible]

Blah, looks like I've thrown a stone into the hornet's nest. Let me just try to clarify what I meant.

I played MTW and it is probably the best game I have ever played.

Rome is clearly not up to par with medieval. I agree with almost everything you vets say about it. The AI is usually mediocre (although after the patch it doesn't seem horrible), men and cav run too fast, and the battles are too fast. In my personal experience, the kill rates aren't insanely fast as you guys imply, but then again I play on huge units. And I do, in fact, get to use actual tactics. I do realize that my style of play is different, so I won't bother arguing that point; there's no way I can prove to you that I do use tactics, just as there's no way that you can prove to me the game is unplayable.

But my point is that Rome is a different game. It wasn't catered towards most of the players who post here. The game is going to remain entirely newbie friendly, whether we like it or not.

You Newbies make me want to throw up!

Thanks.

Unmodifed, the game is unplayable.

See its the comments like these that I don't like. Perhaps its unplayable to you, but I have played the game through unmodified several times. So have the thousands of what you would call 'noobs' over at the .com forums. It's NOT unplayable; can't you see that other people are playing it. But alas, this is an opinion so no use arguing...

All you people who are so happy, satisfied and devoid of deep thinking, ruin this forum for me.

Another compliment, I see. I'm devoid of deep thinking because I enjoy the game?

Wrong. We simply want it to be BETTER than STW/MTW. It ain't!

Exactly. That's my point.

Think about it this way, for many of us, myself in particular, the single most important aspect of the game as been....ahhhh.... nullified, taken away, gone, kaput, evaporated!!! (High Tactical Maneuvers)

Again, that's my point. Why do you stick around and just bash the game?

SECOND, Newbie why don't you do a search of the STW archives, you may have to ask Tosa to upload them. If you can get the Search function to work and the archives are there, you will find a post by me, ToranagaSama, exclaming wonder at the sprite animations, how the sprites parry and retreat, blah, blah...

In your search, you'll also find a BUNCH of other *awe-struck* posts by the now Veterans.

Yeah but those weren't exclaiming wonder at Rome Total war, were they?



I personally didn't encounter any show stopping bugs myself until I stopped by here to hear what you had to say. From the way you put it, it sounded like you thought the game was bargain bin material. Clearly, you still do. I don't. Opinions can't be argued. I'll just stop here, before I lose any further respect from the community. That's just my reason for posting; I thought you guys were being too harsh but clearly you aren't.

BTW, I've been in several beta tests myself. I can tell you that many beta's have more bugs than Rome did at release. I mean, look at star wars galaxies. Over a year from release and it's still buggy as heck.

[Bhruic]

BTW, I've been in several beta tests myself. I can tell you that many beta's have more bugs than Rome did at release. I mean, look at star wars galaxies. Over a year from release and it's still buggy as heck.

And yet you're still using this "defense".

"I bought a car that fell apart in the lot, so you should be happy to have a car with only 3 wheels and no brakes."

Sorry, but that argument holds no water. It doesn't matter whether some betas have had more bugs than RTW. I mean, I could just as easily point to beta tests I've done that have had less bugs than RTW. But that proves nothing.

RTW when it was released had too many fundamental issues to warrant a release at that point. There were too many unaddressed issues. And too many things that should have been spotted during any competent beta test. The fact that they either weren't, or were but weren't dealt with is simply an indication that releasing a beta product on the customers wasn't considered to be a bad thing by the powers-that-be. And that is an entirely sad way to look at things.

Bh

[Jeanne d'arc]

I think the game is brilliant and the 1.2 patch has exceeded my expectations.
Many people in this forum complain and its the nr1 reason why i never came here anymore untill now.Surprised i was when people where still complaining even when in my eyes the patch up was a great improvement compared to the original game.It seems that no matter how good the patch would be those people would still be complaining about even the smallest problems they can possibly find.Its becoming like a sport for some....
Yet still those same people still have there copy of the game so i gues its not that bad after all.