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    Senior Member Senior Member Jambo's Avatar
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    Default Disabling the AI from using ladders on Stone walls?

    Does anyone know if it's possible to disable ladders altogether? Of all the siege equipment, ladders are the most bug-ridden, with the AI often getting stuck using them. Not only that, but the success rate of using them is so low and it is often suicide compared with the other siege equipment. As a result the AI is considerably better at assaulting Epic walls as opposed to basic Stone walls.

    So, is it possible?
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    Default Re: Disabling the AI from using ladders on Stone walls?

    Actually I prefer ladders, mainly because I play on huge unit sizes. The reason the A.I. gets shot up is because they do'nt align the ladders to the wall causing them to walk in front of towers. They do plenty of dumb things when building siege equipment. Such as sap points for wooden walls even though the human ca'nt build them for wooden walls. Then when it comes to a stonewall they actually build a battering ram wich is 1 of the most dumbest things considering boiling oil. I do have to say they actually succeeded once in breaking open the gates, so it is possible.
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    Default Re: Disabling the AI from using ladders on Stone walls?

    One thing is that they don't target ballistas/onagers properly to allow them to scale the walls or beat in a gate unhindered

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    Default Re: Disabling the AI from using ladders on Stone walls?

    I mostly use towers, usually only about 3 soldiers die ( stone wall ).
    however ladders are good at getting the whole unit on the wall in stead of like 30 soldiers ( huge unit size. ) which isn't good because when you want to assault the city plaza you need to wait for the soldiers that are still at the bottom of the tower.. which sucks especially when you're low on units and every soldier counts...

    sometimes the AI only sends in their first wave of units ( the ones holding the siege equipment ) and then just wait till the timer runs out, with plenty of infantry still waiting to be sent up the wall..
    that's how I won a siege versus the Scipii playing as Gaul, I had 3 chosen swordsmen and they had a full stack balanced army..they only sent up 3 units of principes which were easily killed by my swordsmen. and they could have won that time, what a waste...
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    Default Re: Disabling the AI from using ladders on Stone walls?

    Dutch guy, that's the exact problem I'm talking about. I don't know whether it's a bug or the AI evaluating that it shouldn't send all units with ladders to the walls. To me, it looks like a bug, as they'll often just sit there until the timer runs out.

    If we could disable the AI from using ladders in a file somewhere, then the AI would only use siege towers and rams and at least would provide a bigger challenge when assaulting Stone walls. Does anyone have an idea whether this is possible from the files? I had hoped it might be as the AI can't use ladders against Epic walls (and consequently do much better as a result)...
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