I bought RTW, but ended up playing STW WE instead.

**Biggus Diccus** · 02-15-2005, 22:06

What can I say: STW rulez! Too bad I didn't play it when it came out 5 (?) years ago. I finished both Shimazu and Uesugi campaigns on medium, and now I think I'll take a Oda campaign on hard.

I guess I'll play RTW again when the community figure out how to balance things to make battles more fun, and perhaps another patch

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 02-16-2005, 02:03

cheers

**Irinami** · 02-16-2005, 04:25

Somebody mentioned this in a modding thread here: One of the challenging things about S:TW (and the Sengoku-jidai period in general) is the homogenity of the units. There is no game of Rock-Paper-Scissors like you get in some fantasy or other historical wargames. OK, so yari beat horses... but everyone gets them.

For my money, I prefer a historically accurate wargame which has been modified to be fun without sacrificing too much accuracy. Coming from a WWII Grognard background, I find S:TW to be a decent balance of those two concerns...

... for a game without hexes, that is.

**gatoshin** · 02-16-2005, 07:24

As a former miniatures gamer who no longer has the space or the free time to maintain this hobby, I fell in love with Shogun immediately. Then as the historical background of the game stirred my interest in the Sengoku Jidai, I became absolutely enthralled.

The Europa Universalis games had this effect on me, as well.

**Ed TW** · 02-16-2005, 09:18

Same for me Gatoshin.
I played rtw twice and probably won't play it again.
maybe I'll trade it in. Hope the furture ones won't be like it,
but I have a feeling it will.

**Wilbo** · 02-16-2005, 10:10

hahaha, Ive been considering buying Rome for weeks now, but I guess this has convinced me not too... I'll wait for a bundle pack of Rome and its expansion pack in about a years time

Plus, Ill have the processor to run it well by then.

**Drisos** · 02-16-2005, 13:16

Originally Posted by Biggus Diccus

What can I say: STW rulez!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STW is da rulah!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

same opinion!

**ROCKHAMMER** · 02-16-2005, 15:00

I am with Wilbo on this one. I too have been considering to buy RTW but I think this has helped me to decide to hold off for a year or so. Things should be straightened out by then (hopefully). Thanks Guys. I will happily play STW WE and MTW VI over and over again...

**gatoshin** · 02-16-2005, 15:37

I think the fundamental issue I have with the other Total War games is, as well as the tactical interface works for other historical periods, it is difficult to find an equally dynamic, involving setting for a grand campaign.

At this point, I'd be delighted if the next Total War game was simply an updated Shogun with more choices for the use of ninjas, better graphics, improved terrain that better reflects the battlegrounds of the Sengoku Jidai, etc.

**ROCKHAMMER** · 02-16-2005, 16:29

I agree Gatoshin. I would much rather see a revamp of STW WE and MTW VI with the new game engine than see actually new games. I hope the guys at CA have this on their agenda. I am ready to buy right now..

**Shogun Karai** · 02-19-2005, 15:47

I agree with alot. A STW and MTW remake would be excellent. I bought Rome but only play various mods. I can't wait until Sengoku Jidai mod comes out. IMO:
STW WE>MTW>VI>RTW

Shogun is so great. It's a shame that there hasn't been a remake yet..........