What triggers civil war?

**Stepicus** · 02-18-2005, 19:24

This is my first time playing the long campaign. Brutii h/h. Senate outlaws me 230BC. My popularity with the Senate and the people is about in the middle. I have 15 provinces and tons of money ( over 400,000 dn).Immediately after I take the 16th provence I am declared an outlaw. From things I've read in the guides and forums you have to fall out of favor with the Senate first before being declared an outlaw. Seemed rather sudden. Is this unusual? Does too much denari scare them?

**The Stranger** · 02-18-2005, 19:27

do you call that tons i'm at 245 and i have 1.4 billion. and conquered over 50 provinces +Rome

**Mikeus Caesar** · 02-18-2005, 19:31

DN400,000 is not much at all boy, not much at all....

**ghostcamel** · 02-18-2005, 19:33

Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1

do you call that tons i'm at 245 and i have 1.4 billion. and conquered over 50 provinces +Rome

Holy simeolians Batman

1.4 billion... 245 AD ... sweet zombie jeebus.

I havent played RTW in awhile but that sure seems like a lot

**Mikeus Caesar** · 02-18-2005, 19:35

It's because the evil Emperor changed his starting money in the desc_strat files. He just put in something like 99999999999 so then the game starts off at it's maximum amount of money, DN1.4 billion.

**The Stranger** · 02-18-2005, 19:37

no i have 3 protectorates that come up with a 100 million a turn

**The Stranger** · 02-18-2005, 19:38

Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar

It's because the evil Emperor changed his starting money in the desc_strat files. He just put in something like 99999999999 so then the game starts off at it's maximum amount of money, DN1.4 billion.

'btw its 9999999999 one 9 more and you'll start in red

**Mikeus Caesar** · 02-18-2005, 19:39

Ee.....start in the red? Not good.

**The Stranger** · 02-18-2005, 19:40

9999999999 this will make you get 1.4 billion

**Ellesthyan** · 02-18-2005, 19:42

Argh Umei, do you have to say that in every topic?

Anyway, civil war is triggered whenever the Senate sees a serious threat in you. It isn't very common; usually the Senate will first start giving impossible missions like having your faction leader assasinated, forcing the player to attack. 400k denarii is not a very probable reason, more likely it is that you haven't been pleasing the Senate enough, while getting a load of provinces.

**The Stranger** · 02-18-2005, 19:53

i only get outlawes when i attack the senate

**Oaty** · 02-19-2005, 16:49

With the patch you can now get outlawed via spies and asassins. I think you are ok to spy on field armies with no retribution, but watchout if your spy gets caught going to town. Someone stated they got outlawed because there spy failed to infiltrate the town so he got caught in the act.