Choosing Provinces: Armoury or Unit Bonus?

[Wilbo]

The title explains it all really. I'm interested in finding out what kind of province everyone finds effective based on the bonus it supplies... Ignoring aspects like koku produced or location, would you guys prefer a province that gives a unit bonus (e.g. Ashigaru from Owari have +1 Honor, Totomi +1 Archers, Yamashiro all units +1) or a province that can support an Armoury (e.g. Nagano, Hitachi, Sado)?

Another example: if you had Satsuma (+1 Honor Nodachi) and Nagano (armoury), where would you produce your Nodachis?

[Biggus Diccus]

I wonder about this as well. Just got the legendary swordsman event (btw: got it when rushing 3 ashi units against a archer unit with 2 men in a fortress. The archers killed like 15 of my peasants before they died...), and I must choose where to locate nodachi production.

[Drisos]

Another example: if you had Satsuma (+1 Honor Nodachi) and Nagano (armoury), where would you produce your Nodachis?

i would make them in satsuma, i consider honour more important then armour.

i usually build up castles and dojo's in every bonus provincie(totomi, shinano, some others and especially yamashiro), but you never have much of those, that's why i do use armoury provincies(you know what i mean ) in the beginning, to train naginata and later heavy cav. .

[Si GeeNa]

I will rely more on Honour than Armour. Especially if I'm Oda.

Owari cranks out +1Hon Ashi. Max it up with Legendary Spear Dojos and you can find yourself with 3Hon Ashi pretty quick. With a decent Taisho, you'll have 4Hon Ashi. Pretty deadly.

To top it off, I get them retrained at Omi or Mino for the max Weapons and Armour. I end up with a budget force that's pretty hard to grind down.

Of course, I trade that extra turn for the retraining.

[ElmarkOFear]

Honor increases are much more valuable than armor. Here is why:

An honor increase does 3 important things:

For every level of honor increase:

1. Morale increases by 2
2. Attack (weapon) increases by 1
3. Defense (armor) increases by 1

The other province, you first have to build an armoury then the only bonus you get is a +1 to your defense, +2 with the next building, and +3 with the last armoury upgrade.

The +1 honor province give you a greater, cheaper, and immediate benefit, whereas the province with the iron, must have an armoury built on it, is costly and time consuming.

Hope this helps. :)

[Wilbo]

Awesome, good response EOF, just what I was looking for! Thanks also to Si GeeNa for suggesting retraining the units in an armoury filled province. Good work those men!

[ichi]

Honor bonuses are the most important, as everyone has so well stated already, but armor is valuable also, especially for archers, monks (lightly armored to begin with) and of course necessary for some troop types.

I make a point of building troops where they get the honor bonus, but early on in the game I usually need to build troops in additional provinces, so I try to use the armoury provinces.

This was a good question for a thread. Along the same lines, in what order would you build in a province that you wished to be your primary producer of Yari Sams, after you had the Spear Dojo: armoury, swordsmith, palace, or go for the next level castle and dojo?

For me its always palace, armor, weapon, next level.

ichi