AI spoils the game

**NicSO** · 02-21-2005, 13:29

No, I never play on easy, Im plying on Medium.
I dont like play on hard because stats asre fucked up in that case and I hate that. I like clear stats, not +3 to all other civilisations etc.

I just wanna AI and in this game AI is just a myth!!!

**Old Celt** · 02-21-2005, 16:35

I've read a fair share of complaints about the AI, but nothing quite like your post. Maybe you could give us some details of what you had and what the other side had, and we could try to recreate your results in custom battles?

**NicSO** · 02-21-2005, 18:30

I had my standard army (6 Early Leg. cohorts W and A +3 upgrade, 4 Auxillia cohorts also +3 A and W upgrade, 2 Gallic sword Auxilllia units aslo on max W and A upgrades, with +2 exp upgrade, 3 archer units with w +3 upgrade and A +1, exp +2 and 2 barb merc units with A/W +2 and exp +2 upgrade. I also had 1 roman cav unit, one leg cavc unit and one aux cav unit all +3 W/A upgrade and leg cav +2 exp upgrade.

Selecuids had 9 phalanx pikemen units, 1 war elephants units that had +1 W/A upgrade) 6 peltasts units, general +1 star and 2 prodromoi cav units.

Oh....my general was +4...
I crushed them like old women :-)

Battle was near Pergamum!

Im using totalrealism 5.1

**The Stranger** · 02-21-2005, 18:37

with the patch 1.2v

**Razor1952** · 02-22-2005, 00:21

I disagree that the ai is useless, I've had some quite fearsome battles and the ai can be the master when things get very confused with units going in all directions.

Playing Brutii early on Vanilla 1.2 attacked Thermon with bog standard Hastati/velites and 5 star general versus mainly peltasts/cretan archers/militia hoplites and their 5 star general(about the same numbers of troops), I had to attack uphill but I got my ass whipped . The ai flanked and charged at the appropriate moment.

Of course I could have waited till I had overwhelming forces and crushed them but I prefer to play ultra-aggressively. This means I sometimes get whipped.

I suspect many people have upgraded armies versus non-upgraded ai armies and therefore think they are great hero's when they win. Hah... I suggest they try to play more aggressively.

**The Stranger** · 02-22-2005, 10:45

yes with the new patch they even do rear charges.

**BeeSting** · 02-22-2005, 21:47

Originally Posted by Razor1952

I disagree that the ai is useless, I've had some quite fearsome battles and the ai can be the master when things get very confused with units going in all directions.

Playing Brutii early on Vanilla 1.2 attacked Thermon with bog standard Hastati/velites and 5 star general versus mainly peltasts/cretan archers/militia hoplites and their 5 star general(about the same numbers of troops), I had to attack uphill but I got my ass whipped . The ai flanked and charged at the appropriate moment.

Of course I could have waited till I had overwhelming forces and crushed them but I prefer to play ultra-aggressively. This means I sometimes get whipped.

I suspect many people have upgraded armies versus non-upgraded ai armies and therefore think they are great hero's when they win. Hah... I suggest they try to play more aggressively.

I know what you mean, the comp forces can be tough when they are veterans and yours is not. But I would have to disagree with you in regards to their competence. There was one time a one full stack of my army went against three full stacks of comp forces; I ran initially thinking I was sure to lose this battle, but they caught up to me and I was forced to fight. I was the Greeks with their usual hoplite center and cavalry and light foot soldiers on the flanks; the comp was the Brutii and the fight was on a hilly plains. And what does the AI center do? To point one, it does the usual last minute flanking move running into my phalanx in an angle and not against their broad sides, so the initial stack was routed in a minute of engagement; the second charged in head long with its velites and making similar errors; the third doing its usual idiot moves. Am I a military genius? Hell no! It's just that the comp really really sux, and the AI needs a lot of help outside of its own intelligence to win anything on a battlefield. Let me note that both were of experienced veteran troops of equal quality.

**Razor1952** · 02-23-2005, 00:43

Sure Beesting point taken, I wasn't really suggesting the AI was superior to the human , but I think it has been the subject of unfair cricitism. It can sometimes give a very good account of itself.