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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    Is it somehow possibile, by useing some already bygged triggers like GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle or GeneralFoughtInCombat, to detect is combat, in fact, autocalc or manual?
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    What are default general hit points anyway?
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    player 1, are you the guy from the civ forums that made the patch suggestion mod? Anyway, I think the General by default has 6 hitpoints. Edit: actually campfreddie might be right.

    As well as the battlescarred, your fixes will also have to be applied to berserker trigger and the shieldbearer and heroic saviour ancillaries.
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    Quote Originally Posted by Jambo
    player 1, are you the guy from the civ forums that made the patch suggestion mod?
    yes
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    Okay, using the rules (in this order) that I think Zrave is suggesting above:
    1. If (bug, Fix) = (1,2), then (bug, Fix) reset to (0,0)
    2. Parse battlemap triggers - no trait if Bug = 1
    3. If Bug = 1 then Fix = 2
    4. If Bug = 0, then Bug = 1)

    And (1,2) is the maximum level for (Bug, Fix)...

    If so, then these are the outcomes I expect from a few senarios:


    If this is accurate, then I'm much happier. Although it is still penalising the AI, as the AI will normally fight far more A/Cs than the player. My preference, given the current situation with the AI, would be to penalise the player in situations such as this.
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    Consdering that scarred is buggy for autocalc, maybe something like this could be a quick-patch

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle1
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle < 0.7
    and GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle > 0

    Affects BattleScarred 1 Chance 30
    Affects Brave 1 Chance 15

    ;------------------------------------------


    Added GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle > 0 prevents getting Scarred in autocalc battles in which general didn't got injured at all. Same condition for manual cointrolled battles is not problem considering that general would be dead, for =0 anyway.
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    Actually, when I think about it GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle > 0.15 is probably the best option.

    For autocalc that means generals which lost more then 1hp.

    7hp*0.15=1.05
    9hp*0.15=1.35
    11hp*0.15=1.65
    13hp*0.15=1.95

    That should leave enough room for autocalc to award scarred not to often.

    For manual battles that just means that general which have 1hp left won't get checked for scarred trait (no big deal).
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    Default Re: Traits that are bugged in 1.2 with fixes. Part 1: Scarred, Farmer, Trader

    I've been told that Generals have +5 HP. So that's 7 HP, since the bodyguard unit has 2 already.

    Quote Originally Posted by player1
    Is it somehow possibile, by useing some already bugged triggers like GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle or GeneralFoughtInCombat, to detect is combat, in fact, autocalc or manual?
    Damn! I thought that would work for GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle but the best it can give is:

    GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle "less than"0.95 is true when you autocalc (and didn't die) or when your battlemap general loses HP.

    For battlemap: GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle > 0.05 is true when you battlemap or when your autocalc general loses any HP.

    I can't think of a way to further distinguish between battlemap and autocalc.
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