Protectorate... again :/

[RollingWave]

Well i got the Germans as my protectorate in my gaul game this time... this time it seemed a bit more realistic as they accepted right after i smashed their full stack of spear warband + several women and axeman that was hanging around my capital... (huge victory with the X mark too.. i had less men but killed them all losing less than 100 attackign up hill too rofl)

But again the Romans never gave in dispite being pounded to dust with at least half a dozen X over the italian with all 4 Roman factions suffering catastrophec defeat in my hand... i think their are probably some particular match ups that will never give in (Romans giving in to Gaul for example)

[RollingWave]

Hmmm i got the Brutties as my protectrate now...

It would seem so far that factions are very unlikely to accept becomming a protectrate if they have no where else to go ... as you you are their only adversary, which might explain why those 1 province factions never seem to accept.. because u have them completely surronded...

Also repeated threat seem to work... you ask and threaten them a repeatedly every turn for several turn while keep making moves on them seem to up ur chances.

Also if they dont give u the freedom speech then they aer probably on the verge of accepting.

[Quillan]

So far, the only times I have been able to gain a Protectorate has been through the "Accept or we will attack" option. Germania accepted right off, while Brittania countered with a demand that I pay them 16k per turn for 3 turns and give them back three provinces I had taken. I refused. Everyone else I have tried has refused outright, but I never gave them the ultimatum either. The very next time I spoke with Germania via emissary, they broke it off.

[Slaists]

I've been able to sucker Pontus into becoming a protectorate after taking just a single province from them. As it turned out after: Pontus had more provinces at that point than me (they had taken all of Parthia, Armenia, and some Seleucid provinces)... I guess, the decision is very random in nature...

[Besieger]

But one thing really sux is that when u got a protectorate under u....ur tresury tends to be wiped off sooner than expected....

Instead during my campiagn now as the Cartaginian...i become protectorate to bruitti and the gauls and benefits from them....