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    I was just wondering if you were going to make the equite's better armoured (Say Triarii-like). This is because the equites were the nobility amongst the army and therefore it would make sense for them to look like the richest as well. My apologises if this has already been boguht up.

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    Default Re: Equies- Better armour?

    All of our units are painstakingly researched. The early Roman horse will be armed in the Greek fashion, with a short muscled cuirass, round shield, sword and spear.
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    The Equites may have been little rich boys, but they were not good Cavalry... Nowhere near in the same league as the Triarii.

    The Romans employed foreign cavalry into their armies for a very good reason, because their own cavalry was very poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Emperor
    The Equites may have been little rich boys, but they were not good Cavalry... Nowhere near in the same league as the Triarii.

    The Romans employed foreign cavalry into their armies for a very good reason, because their own cavalry was very poor.
    Their own cavalry was very limited in numbers, (because they have been erecruites amang the limited upper class of republican society) so the romans were forced rely mainly in their sociis cavalry. I`ve found no reason why they should be so horrible. Of course they were no match for horseculture cavalry like the numidians, but why should they be worse than the casual cavalry of the time?

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    Of course they were no match for horseculture cavalry like the numidians, but why should they be worse than the casual cavalry of the time?
    That depends on what you mean by "casual cavalry" if you mean the same as most of the surrounding cultures I would disagree.

    If you compare the Pre-Marian Roman Equites to the cavalry fielded by other cultures surrounding Rome during this time, you'll find that the other cultures were always the superior horsemen... The Gauls, Iberians, Greeks, and Numidians all fielded far superior cavalry to the Roman Equites.

    For Rome the infantry of the legion were the ones who really decided the outcome of battles, Equites were limited to scouting and screening the flanks. Eventually Rome realised its glaring weakness and drafted in better Cavalry from those cultures.

    Personally I think that CA certainly got the unit stats wrong, and the Equites should have all the raw power of those "Macedonian Light Lancers" who die so well it hurts!
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    In R:TW the complete roman cavalry is certainly overmodelled. They can defeat almost every comparable unit head on. The actual stats of the greek cavalry should be enough for the equites, with much higher upkeep. With casual cavalry I mean none elite units of comporable societys like carthage or the greeks.

    And undoubtly the legions were the backbone of the roman army and the conquerers of the ancient word. I only want to save the honour of the equites, who were not crap on horses. Their number was very limited so they could never play a decicive role without additional allied cavalry as support. But that says nothing about the abilitys of the individual eques.
    According to Polybius the roman cavalry was able to inflict heavy looses on hannibals cavalry.( Book15/10 also the ultimately lost).
    And at Zama the roman/Italian cavalry under Gaius Laelius placed on the left wing by scipio was able to defeat their carthaginian counterparts.

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