I fielded 3500 against 16000+ screaming, sweaty, stinking mongols and routed them BAD as the Byz. Similar deal when I played the Turks and played a long and very tiresome game of feint and counter to trap their mounted units in the treeline where they got slaughtered. I got suprised a couple times as the turks by the spanish and hungarians, the hungarians faced me in a bridge fight and massacred (I lost less than a 100 men and still won the butcher vice, would have won it 3 times over if the game let me) and the spanish sent jinittes and militia sarges against my Turkish horse, camels and fatuwa ... in the desert ... basically removed them as a contender in one fight.