New thread for centralized data access.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Basically this is a thread to hold the revised facrtion lists and all unit lists and other material that is ready or nearly ready to be used as final work for the game.
If anyone would like the unit lists just ask here and I can e-mail or pm you the 13 pages of unorganized work.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

Basically this is a thread to hold the revised facrtion lists and all unit lists and other material that is ready or nearly ready to be used as final work for the game.
If anyone would like the unit lists just ask here and I can e-mail or pm you the 13 pages of unorganized work.

Edit: Faction list ready for revision:
Castilians
Danes
English
French
Golden Horde
Hapsburgs
Hungarians
Mamluks
Moors
Polish
Russians
Turks
Venetians
Papacy
Tuetonic Knights
Burgundy
Milano
Naples
Scotland

May Add:
Poland

Removed Factions:
Argonese
Knights of St. John
Knights of the Dragon
Italians
Note there are 20 slots, plus rebels.

I know this is not the most up to date list, but I want to get rid of all the confusion and start from the beginnning again. I believe we wanted to get rid of the Knights of the Dragon, have 2-3 Italian factions instead of Knightly orders and have 2 German factions. Now we can start to shuffly them about and ensure that we do not make a mistake.

[Yggdrasill]

Allright my comment on the factions...

No Aragonese...why? Well, Spain was united from 1485 onwards (and for brief periods even before that) and having two Spanish factions would, as years pass, be unrealistic. Try imaginig the 16th century face of Europe without Spain, instead having Castille or something...dumb. Instead get Burgundy, that dukedom disappeared entirely by chance and could have been a major player in the 16th century. .

Change Italians to Milano.
We don't need Order of the Dragon (very minor players, and not even a state/knightly order but more of a loose aliance of Wallachian nobles for a brief period of time), and the Hospitallers, although interesting, would be a waste of a slot. Too few provinces, too weak, only interesting as pirates/corsairs, and with the ships being what they are in RTW...

So in thier place, we put in Naples (so we get three Italian factions + Pope). We keep the Teutonic order. Optionally, instead of Naples, we put in Aragon-(Naples included as a part of it), or a third German faction. But this would create a problem with cultures.

In place of the other knightly order we put...either Sweden or another German faction. I vote for the German faction even though Sweden will be missed.

Also, chances are that an inevitable expansion shall bring many improvements to the gameplay...maybe even additional faction slots. Something to think about.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

So now we have 3 "Papal minions" and two Germanic factions?

[Ignoramus]

I still think we should have 3 German factions. Saxony, Bavaria, and Hapsburgs. But if 2, Saxony and Hapsburgs. Also DEFINATELY change Aragon to Naples!

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I forgot to remove them, even though they were on my list of removed factions.....

I counted the factions in RTW and got 21. I believe this is right and so we have the possibility of adding three more factions. This list may not contain some that we have decided to add so could everyone please take a close look at it. I can then add Saxony.

Are we keeping Tuetonic Knights?