2 simple questions about desert fighting

[paul3373]

Do provinces with "Arid Ground" count as desert? More specifically, do I need to worry about the armor level when fighting in Arid Ground because my troops will tire too fast?

Also, I read that when fighting in the desert, use troops without armor - or armor 5 or less. Just want to verify that Men at Arms are OK to use? They are armored, but the armor value is only 3 (according to the unit guide I have)

[Procrustes]

Do provinces with "Arid Ground" count as desert? More specifically, do I need to worry about the armor level when fighting in Arid Ground because my troops will tire too fast?

Also, I read that when fighting in the desert, use troops without armor - or armor 5 or less. Just want to verify that Men at Arms are OK to use? They are armored, but the armor value is only 3 (according to the unit guide I have)

Hi,

The desert provinces are the ones that say "rocky desert" or "sandy desert". Arid ground is different.

I'm not sure about MAA - they are listed as armored, but if you don't give them any armor bonuses I would guess they would do OK.

HTH,

[Adrian II]

Do provinces with "Arid Ground" count as desert? More specifically, do I need to worry about the armor level when fighting in Arid Ground because my troops will tire too fast?

Also, I read that when fighting in the desert, use troops without armor - or armor 5 or less. Just want to verify that Men at Arms are OK to use? They are armored, but the armor value is only 3 (according to the unit guide I have)

Hi Paul3373,

Arid Ground is decidedly not Desert, so there is no fried chivalry bonus.

As for Desert fighting, it depends a bit on your playing style what you wanna bring. Armour 5+ is definitely out of the question, certainly after 1205 by which time the gentlemen of the Muslim persuasion have strong and highly mobile armies that can easily wear you out.

Check the guides and faqs on the .org and over at Gamefaqs.com for details on periods, factions, Crusades, etcetera. It's worth an in-depth look and some trial and error; it really pays off if you develop your own Desert tactics, because this great game allows for so many individual styles.
Enjoy!

[ichi]

Arid is not nearly as harsh on armored troops as either Rocky or Sandy Desert, but heavily armored troops will experience heat related fatigue. All troops get fatigued, even lightly armored in Lush or Temp, so when I play in arid lands I am more careful about when I run my guys - walking whenever you can can rather than running is the single easiest thing you can do to help reduce fatigue load.

I prefer FMAA that have been pumped up a little over vanilla CMAA. A Valor 3 FMAA is quite similar in stats to a Valor 2 CMAA. I rarely use CMAA in desert conditions, and try (hard) to use FMAA in arid (same thing for Feudal Knights and Chivalric Knights).

ichi

[Thessalos]

Excuse me jendlemen but i am a bit confused!
Where can i see the armor lvl with such details that you have mentiont(5+,3+)

[Adrian II]

Excuse me jendlemen but i am a bit confused!
Where can i see the armor lvl with such details that you have mentiont(5+,3+)

Thessalos, you can find all such stuff in the Complete Total War Unit Guide as compiled by our Lady of the Pond.

[Thessalos]

Thanks Adrian II,but this does not work...
Yesterday i downloaded the XL version of MTW(VI) and the statsof the units have changed a lot... Some units from levies have turned to elite!!!