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    A very, very Senior Member Adrian II's Avatar
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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by paul3373
    Do provinces with "Arid Ground" count as desert? More specifically, do I need to worry about the armor level when fighting in Arid Ground because my troops will tire too fast?

    Also, I read that when fighting in the desert, use troops without armor - or armor 5 or less. Just want to verify that Men at Arms are OK to use? They are armored, but the armor value is only 3 (according to the unit guide I have)
    Hi Paul3373,

    Arid Ground is decidedly not Desert, so there is no fried chivalry bonus.

    As for Desert fighting, it depends a bit on your playing style what you wanna bring. Armour 5+ is definitely out of the question, certainly after 1205 by which time the gentlemen of the Muslim persuasion have strong and highly mobile armies that can easily wear you out.

    Check the guides and faqs on the .org and over at Gamefaqs.com for details on periods, factions, Crusades, etcetera. It's worth an in-depth look and some trial and error; it really pays off if you develop your own Desert tactics, because this great game allows for so many individual styles.
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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    Arid is not nearly as harsh on armored troops as either Rocky or Sandy Desert, but heavily armored troops will experience heat related fatigue. All troops get fatigued, even lightly armored in Lush or Temp, so when I play in arid lands I am more careful about when I run my guys - walking whenever you can can rather than running is the single easiest thing you can do to help reduce fatigue load.

    I prefer FMAA that have been pumped up a little over vanilla CMAA. A Valor 3 FMAA is quite similar in stats to a Valor 2 CMAA. I rarely use CMAA in desert conditions, and try (hard) to use FMAA in arid (same thing for Feudal Knights and Chivalric Knights).

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    Excuse me jendlemen but i am a bit confused!
    Where can i see the armor lvl with such details that you have mentiont(5+,3+)

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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    Quote Originally Posted by Thessalos
    Excuse me jendlemen but i am a bit confused!
    Where can i see the armor lvl with such details that you have mentiont(5+,3+)
    Thessalos, you can find all such stuff in the Complete Total War Unit Guide as compiled by our Lady of the Pond.
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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    Thanks Adrian II,but this does not work...
    Yesterday i downloaded the XL version of MTW(VI) and the statsof the units have changed a lot... Some units from levies have turned to elite!!!

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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    After you're in battle with your troops if you hit F1 it will show you all their stats. I don't know a way to access them between battles if they're different from the guides.

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    Default Re: 2 simple questions about desert fighting

    Look in the MTW directory for a file with UNIT_PROD in it.

    I'm not familiar with the XL mod but this is the file that contains the unit's stats. My guess is that the XL mod either uses its own file or modifies the Viking_Unit_Prod file.

    Use a text editor to view the file, don't save it when you are finished or you'll screw it up. Just close the editor without saving.

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