Reinforcements delayed?

[hung41584]

uhh i think it has something to do with how many "fast" units in your reinforcing army. Like if it contains a lot of cavalry, then the reinforcements will get there asap. I think if you compare the enemy army to your reinforcement army, you will know if the reinforcements will arrive. I know generals make sure your whole army arrive together, while armies without one tend to arrive seperately.

Also, you can get more than a full army stack into battle just by letting the ai control your reinforcements. I think some of you had your reinforcements delayed because you were already at your limit(the number of men you can control). Just make sure that ai controlled box is checked before you go into battle and you'll see surprisingly LARGE uneven battles.

I found this out when I kept seeing how the ai sent in reinforcements even though they were over their limit. I thought they would have to wait before the other large army came in, but I was surprised to see like 5000 units against my 2500 units. If you want your reinforcements to come in, let the ai control it.

[professorspatula]

I don't know if that message was replying to mine, it's difficult to know with these forums. But anyway, I let the AI control all my reinforcements. It's an experimental/role playing campaign where I have so many units, I'm not too fussed over how many survive, so I let the AI throw away my units at will. I wish it wouldn't throw all my poor Night Raiders away though. The AI's stupidity during the 'Siege of A Thousand Idiocies' as I now call it, was the last straw however. I'll auto-calc any siege that uses AI reinforcements. If the AI can't even figure out how to use more than 1 piece of siege equipment when it has several, then there is no point in ever playing the battles.

I'm also not convinced by the 'number of fast units determines chances of reinforcements showing up'. When the AI reinforcements has onagers which slows down the entire army, surely that offsets any fast unit status?

[A.Saturnus]

Also, you can get more than a full army stack into battle just by letting the ai control your reinforcements. I think some of you had your reinforcements delayed because you were already at your limit(the number of men you can control). Just make sure that ai controlled box is checked before you go into battle and you'll see surprisingly LARGE uneven battles.

Sure but that´s not what we´re talking about here. If you don´t check the AI controlled box, your reinforcements join your army when slots are free. When that happens, you get the "reinforcements arrived" message, but you get no message while your reinforcements are waiting. When AI controlled other armies don´t appear, you get the "reinforcements delayed" message. They can arrive later but do not become part of your army. This can also happen to your foe.

[Quietus]

I did the "unlimited" change. So far, I got a single unit reinforcement immediately, though the unit didn't cross the line until one of mine routed since I checked off the AI-controller box (and I had 20 originally).

The enemy reinforcement also didn't get any delay, although their main army wasn't full stack in the first place. So far, Saturnus' hypothesis looks promising.

[bobderfisch]

Not sure how much it's relevant, but the file "event_strings" contains the text for the various "reinforcements delayed" messages, and they are under the header {your_machine_needs_upgrading_body_*}, where * is your culture type.

Is it really performance based or was someone just being cute? Who knows...

[hung41584]

i just got that delayed thing today, it was two stacks of about 1700 for me and for the ai. in the battle we both had delayed armies. then right before the big clash between both sides, their reinforcements arrived. just after the battle started going in my favour, my reinforcements arrived.