Zulu Mod!!!

[dclare4]

Sounds good re the shoulder strap... though I think I should redo the lancer dude with his crossbelts painted on as they're the same anyways. As for the Scottie, there should be two - the one you're referring to is my reference sheet w/c I included so you'll know which ones are which but there should be another one in DDS TGA format as usual which has the cape and plume areas over-written. Let me know though if you need me to resend.

By the way, TWCenter seems to be down again today! Scary...

Harlechman

[Sundjata Keita]

Yeah, TWCenter was down earlier but I thought it must of been my computer, I'm not sure how to back it up so I'm going to copy all the improtant information into text files.

Your right about the Scotties, the dds file was right under my nose and I didn't spot it, completely my fault, sorry for the confusion.

In other news this week:-

I have done a list of Zulu proverbs which I have also donated to www.isizulu.net for them to display. Hopefully we can get any help we need with translations and stuff there too. Skip this bit if you don't want to read them.

Zulu, English and meanings

Format:

Proverb in Zulu
Literal translation in English

Meaning of proverb

Imbilaph' ivun' isilonda.
The groin pains in sympathy with the sore

(similar) Isilonda sisola imbilapho
The wound blames the groin

(similar) Imbilapho isuswa yisilonda
The groin is brought forth by the wound

This Zulu proverb is said because the groin will be painful when one has a sore leg. This is regarded as an act of sympathy that brands the two as friends.

Esuka ’muva ikolwa izagila
The last partridge to rise gets the most sticks thrown at it

In hunting, the natives bring down birds by throwing sticks (izagila) at them. So in war, the last to run is most likely to be killed, etc. Intendele, a partridge, is understood. Kolwa means besides belief also, satisfaction, affliction, etc.

qina lipum’ embizeni
The buck has got out of the pot.

Literally, the buck has escaped the hunter just when he thought he had it.

Uhlakanipa nganhlanye njengomese
You are sharp on one side like a knife.

You are clever, but still not all that you would wish us to think you

Lomhlaba Unzima, Lohmhlaba
This world is a harsh place, this world

Iqil' elintethe zosiwa muva
He is the crafty one whose locusts are roasted last

Locusts were, and still are, eaten by some people, especially boys. When out herding, boys run after locusts, and when they catch them, they push a sharp stick through the thorax until there is a whole row of locusts. When they have collected enough, they make fire and roast them. A wily one will not allow his locusts to be roasted first. The practice is that everyone partakes of the locusts which have been collected by the others. It is possible, therefore, by careful manoeuvring, to save one's locusts until the very end, when it is probable that the others have had enough and do not want more.
Thus the cunning one has all his locusts to himself.
The proverb is used of a person who is keen to benefit from and by the efforts of others, but is reluctant to allow others to have anything from him. He behaves in the same way as the boy who wants the locusts of others but keeps his own for himself

Iqili lidliwa ngamany' amagili
A crafty person is consumed by other crafty people

The English say, "Set a thief to catch a thief." A crafty person employs cunning to outwit other people. Because he knows the tricks of the trade, he will be able to catch other tricksters.

Amaqili kalali ndlininye
Crafty people do not share the same bedroom

Crafty people live by outwitting others. They choose for their victims the unsuspecting who fall easy prey. A crafty person, however, will see through the cunning of another. The crafty, therefore, cannot feel happy in each other's company.

Isandla sigez' esinye
One hand washes the other

Help is reciprocal

Uphembel' emoyeni
He lights the fire in the wind

He is foolish

Isiphukuphuk' esadl' amahlul' amakhaza.
The fool who ate the clotted blood of a tick

Said of one who is extremely foolish

uKucele imphunzini
ask from the duiker

Equivalent of English proverb "fly like the wind"

Intandane enhle ekhothwa ngunina
A good orphan is one that is licked by the mother

By “good” here is meant “one that is in better circumstances”It is well
known that mothers are more tender and sympathetic towards their children. Fathers are, as a rule, more hard-hearted. A mother is capable of making great sacrifices for the welfare of her children, whereas a father may not care so much. Thus a child without a father is generally in better circumstances than a child without a mother.

Khulisa umntwana ngendlela elungileyo lapho esekhulile kayikuphambuka kuyo
Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it

Teach children the path and they will follow it


Only English and meanings known

Format:

Literal Proverb
meaning in brackets


Every stream has its source
(What occurs now was caused by something in the past cause/effect)

Do not speak of a rhinoceros if there is no tree nearby
(Don’t say something unless you can back it up; some things are better left unsaid)

Travelling brings forth a male calf
(a rolling stone gathers no moss)

You begin with the meal before the water is boiling
(count chickens before they hatch)

The cow licks the one that licks her
(Kindness brings its own rewards)

Copying everyone else all the time, the monkey one day cut his throat
(If everyone jumped off a cliff would you?)

Almost is not eaten
(don't put the cart before the horse)

I cannot hear what you say for the thunder of what you are
(A person’s overbearing personality drowns out the message they want to convey)

This too shall pass
(time continues; all things must end)

The elephant has fallen and the tribes have gone to cut off pieces
(used when a strong person falters and others take advantage of his weaknesses)

There is no polecat that ever smelt its own smell
(a person seldom knows his own shortcomings)

The crocodile devours in the strong current
(a warning not to fall in bad company)

The leopard does not sleep with the goat
(used when people do not get along together)

The leopard devours its master
(used when a person gives back bad for good)

The seed waits for its garden or ground where it will be sown
(take your opportunities)


Only English known

Abundance does not spread; famine does

No stake ever grew old with the bark on

He who hates, hates himself

Old age does not announce itself

These will be used as prebattle quotes along with some Xhosa ones and the list of 60 or so Ndebele ones posted at TWC.

In other news I was wondering if the prebattle speeches are going to be in Zulu or not (presuming we can get someone to speak the Zulu) because there are several phrases that would be good such as

benza njengabantwana - they act like children
bakhala njengomfazi - they cry like women
sifanele phumelela - we must win
Bhekinkosi - look to the king
Bhekizifundiswa - watch and learn from the educated ones
Mpinkulu - great war
Musawenkosi - gods grace
Sinenhlanhla - we have luck
Sinethemba - we have hope

For those that don't know work has begun on the building pictures and we are speculating doing them in 3D because a lot of the pictures will be repeats for the native tribes. An example is the Zulu cattle kraal



I know it is not great quality because I didn't have much time to render (and I am not too good at texturing )

The final currency that will be in game will be the "amandla" meaning power in Zulu.

Also what do people think of us doing weekly updates but just all put in this thread? I could post more info but that's what our sub-forum at TWC is for so visit there if you want more info.

Regards,

Sundjata Keita

[dclare4]

Wow those are great quotations Sundjata! I hope we can find someone or a friend of someone who can speak Zulu. Those taunts would be really great if spoken 'in the original Zulu' (to paraphrase the Klingon quote) with subtitles. No prob about the Scottie, all's well that ends well.

We gotta be careful of our forum posts now as well, it seems that there are a lot of malicious codes and hackers going around. Netwar here we come!

I'm trying to remember a quote w/c I'm pretty sure is either Zulu specifically or South African, something that goes, 'if you can walk you can dance' or something like that. Our Zulus should be able to dance while taunting if possible, I think.

Cheers,
Harlechman

[dclare4]

Check this out for another superb reenacting group. They have some info for drill w/c might help with the animations ;)

http://hicketypip.tripod.com/default.htm

Harlechman

[Sundjata Keita]

Ha, those drills are the same ones we do today. I didn't read it all but I expect they still had all the classic rifle exercises "Present Arms!" (that still go on today) Good old British army

[Sundjata Keita]

Well it seems none of you really care about the weekly updates but I will keep doing regular updates so people here can check on the progress. Remember you can post any comments or questions on this thread if you want, I check it most days.

Anyway, this week :-

New Zulu model with monkey tails round waist (old texture)



New shield model on this one (old texture)



British Argyllshires (plus showing off load, aim and fire animations)



Also some research has been done on the faction symbols and we have some ideas for the african tribes (because they had few actual symbols) We would also like a volunteer, if possible, to do some designs but otherwise I think stich will do them with me once he's finished his finals (though some more help would be nice )

Other than that it's been a pretty quiet week

Regards,

Sundjata Keita

[Stormy]

Wow! Marvelous.. I'm looking out for this one.