RTW 1.3 Patch Petition

[Nerouin]

Check here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/index...ntry1811990143

[The_Emperor]

I don't think it will happen.

An expansion is more likely. (there is no profit in patches)

[screwtype]

I wouldn't want another patch. It would be unlikely to address the major underlying problems, such as the AI and game balance, and all it would be likely to do is delay the expansion pack.

I think a better idea is just to present to CA the bugs and glitches that have been found since the release of 1.2 and ask for a fix to be included in the XP.

[Jambo]

Well, if the saved game bug is as bad as it could be, then Rome will be a distant memory long before any expansion comes out. We're early March now and it's an estimated 7+ months till the expansion. That's a long time to wait and another £30 of hard earned money....

[Mayfield The Conqueror]

You are going to have better luck having the community patch up the game between now and the expansion anyway. The discussions in the game mechanics forum have been *very* helpful to me at least and I am sure with some cooperation a small patch could be made up by the people who are modding the game.

[Red Harvest]

I see that the egotistical a$$wipe killemall54 had locked the thread over at .com pertaining to this. Another moderator had said to leave it open. But ole killemall54 needed to go on another power trip.

[BeeSting]

I see that the egotistical a$$wipe killemall54 had locked the thread over at .com pertaining to this. Another moderator had said to leave it open. But ole killemall54 needed to go on another power trip.

Yeah.... what is up with that guy? Someone needs to pull the sarrisa up his a$$.

[screwtype]

Well, if the saved game bug is as bad as it could be, then Rome will be a distant memory long before any expansion comes out. We're early March now and it's an estimated 7+ months till the expansion. That's a long time to wait and another £30 of hard earned money....

What savegame bug? The only one I've heard about is the breaking of AI sieges in reloading a save.

It's a nuisance, but hardly a gamebreaker.

And I don't think 7 months is long to wait, after all we waited, what, nearly five months just for the 1.2 patch which has only fixed some of the more glaring problems.

The point I'm trying to make is that a mere patch won't fix the game's major flaws anyhow, like the ten second battles, instant routing, AI, game balance, steamroller effect, shallow campaign etc. It's going to take CA a long time to fix issues like that - assuming they ever manage to fix them. A patch that fixes stuff like savegame siege breaks or horsed archer moving fire would be nice to have, but is not going to make a critical difference to enjoyment, so why bother with one when CA will only have to spend weeks playtesting it to try and ensure it's stable? That will only put a fix for the real problems back still further.

So I'd much prefer CA put their energies into putting together a much better game for the XP and *then* start worrying about the minor glitches. I know from my own experience programming that it's a waste of time trying to nuance the details before you tackle the big issues, because there is no limit to the amount of time you can spend on details and then the big things never get done.

[tai4ji2x]

It's a nuisance, but hardly a gamebreaker.

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A patch that fixes stuff like savegame siege breaks or horsed archer moving fire would be nice to have, but is not going to make a critical difference to enjoyment

this depends on your personal situation. if you can only play an hour or so every night or every other night, this bug will impact you greatly.

[BeeSting]

CA better get their act together since competition is brewing fast. They will no doubt copy the best elements of the game and make things better.

[Mikeus Caesar]

'Rome will be a distant memory long before any expansion comes out.'

Too true. It's alreadya bit of a memory for me....i remember when i got it, about three weeks after release, being ecstatic about it, and playing it like there was no tomorrow. Now i look back on it, and i wonder, why the hell did i spend so much time playing that thing? Oh well. If an expansion comes out and i still remember RTW, i'm definately getting it.

P.S sorry i couldn't use a proper quote, but for some reason the quote button is refusing to work!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

'Rome will be a distant memory long before any expansion comes out.'

Too true. It's alreadya bit of a memory for me....i remember when i got it, about three weeks after release, being ecstatic about it, and playing it like there was no tomorrow. Now i look back on it, and i wonder, why the hell did i spend so much time playing that thing? Oh well. If an expansion comes out and i still remember RTW, i'm definately getting it.

P.S sorry i couldn't use a proper quote, but for some reason the quote button is refusing to work!!

I play more Medieval than Rome now. If it wasn't for Medievals graphics being pathetic, and I didn't want the expansion, I would have sold, or at least "accidently misplaced" the Rome CD. I was really pumped up 'bout it as soon as I heard of the release, but now i wonder: why the heck did I just waste a month of my life?

[Colovion]

I'd rather have some feedback from CA than another patch.

I'd rather CA tell us the reasons why they've taken this amazing strategy game series and turned it into a Hollywood themepark.

I'd like to know if they plan to keep going down this path.

Then I'll know if it's worth sticking around.

[Spino]

A patch petition! You optimistic dreamers! Good luck... you'll need it!

Seriously now, we know that CA had a two patch deal with Activision and that they used up the first one as soon as RTW went gold so as to address the MP code which was absolutely terrible. Had the first patch contained much more in the way of fixes and tweaks for the SP game RTW might be in much better shape than it is right now. But since it didn't I can understand the desperation at work here.

I see that the egotistical a$$wipe killemall54 had locked the thread over at .com pertaining to this. Another moderator had said to leave it open. But ole killemall54 needed to go on another power trip.

Indeed. Is the Com a particularly nasty place to post nowadays or what? It's not a good sign when you have rabid moderators engaging in pissing contests with forum members!

I'd rather have some feedback from CA than another patch.

I'd rather CA tell us the reasons why they've taken this amazing strategy game series and turned it into a Hollywood themepark.

Come on Colovion, that's easy! Shogun sold over 750,000 units, Medieval sold over one million. Do the math. Anytime those kind of numbers are thrown around you can bet there are going to be some pretty high expectations for the next installment. When CA pitched the idea of RTW to Activision you can bet they took stock of its subject matter and the revolutionary new 3D engine and saw that it had the potential to easily surpass the one million mark. So Activision floated CA a ton of cash to make Rome and spent another ton of cash promoting it. Obviously Activision wanted to make damn sure they made a profit on their investment so its possible they either kept an active and intrusive eye on CA or gave them a damn good idea of what they could and could not do on a very general level.

I think it's safe to say there are CA employees who are just as unhappy with Rome's lowest common denominator approach as we are. The only thing I want to know is just how hard did CA bargain with Activision before inking the deal? Did they really leave room for themselves to maneuver or did they simply sign when they saw the numbers on the contract and believed they could make Rome without too much interference from Activision? Were many of the questionable design decisions that we despise actually the result of Activision's interference or was someone at CA interpreting the spirit of the contract to the best of their abilities?

The worst part of the deal has to be the one or two patch limit. One or two patches for such a huge and complicated game is simply outrageous!

[parrrrk]

I don't think 1.3 ever coming out.
They already announced XP and it will come out late this year, if the schedule goes right. The problem is the patch needs, if we assume it's ever happening, same crews who's wanted to develope XP. As you know, patches are not done within a couple of weeks, so it will take at least a month or two. I don't think CA ever risks that kind of delay of XP.

[AggonyKing]

i still haven't downloaded 1.2 yet people are talking about 1.3 already

[hrvojej]

Speaking of moderating, guess what happened to the petition...

[Kekvit Irae]

Patch or no, the game will always be, in my eyes, Heros of Might and Magic: Total War. Because of this tempted to do something I'd never dream of... go back to playing STW.

[screwtype]

Patch or no, the game will always be, in my eyes, Heros of Might and Magic: Total War. Because of this tempted to do something I'd never dream of... go back to playing STW.

Does STW have any good mods? I love the game but I know it so well by now it's not enough of a challenge anymore.

[hrvojej]

The funny thing is, that during the outcry for a MTW-VI patch, there were a lot of people saying "oooh, no, we shouldn't possibly request this, they're better off spending time to make the Rome perfect". Well, we got the Rome they were talking about, a year later than planned too. I guess the signals saying "we put all our trust that everything will be better in future" really paid off to influence the quality of subsequent releases and all that.

At least with the VI patch that game (as in: the game I already paid for, btw) was really playable. A bird in hand...