The Dutch Republic

[Moros]

but watergeuzen or geuzen aren't a real unit isn't it just the name for all those rebellions. (well I don't know how to state this i proper englisch but it's more like the name of the "organisation". for example you can't make a unit like alqaeda (not sure about the spelling :s) when making a game of this time period.
correct me if I'm wrong
the black gang was a gang so it would have probably lots of kinds of units.
therefor I guess that it would be better to make units like this for example:
(I don't know about real units nor what kind of units they used or...)
but let us say if they for example had some graet cavalry (prob not true but if) let us call it watergeuzen ruiterij for example (dutch for watergeuzen cavalry). cause they didn't had real units with real specific names I think its best just to take a few of the type of the better units they had and put it in dutch with watergeuzens of de zwarte bendes before it.
btw: I only know some facts and stuff abot this but none real details cause all i know about this I have learned in school (but you know how they rush over everything in school)

sorry for bad englisch but I hope this was of any help.
-Gert Gregoor

[Brutus]

Gertgregoor, I agree with you that the Watergeuzen or Geuzen were not real units in a sense. However, in gameplay terms you would have to simplify these things, I think. (In RTW you find lots of units that wouldn't have been 'units' in real life, like for example the Cilician pirates or Judean Zealots) Therefore, you could look upon the Watergeuzen as a kind of guerilla group, which would justify a unit.

Apart from that, the Watergeuzen and other Geuzen fought as seperate entities under seperate commanders (like for example the aforementioned Admiral Lumey van der Marck), with little real connection with the (mercenary) armies of the prince of Orange and the many city militias.

Other than that there were no specific Dutch units. Fighting equipment and style would be much the same as in many parts of northwestern Europe. However, at the turn of the century Maurits (Maurice) of Nassau, son of William of Orange, was one of the leading military innovators and people from all over Europe came to him to learn 'the art of war'.