survived the romans

[caesar44]

is there is a nation that survived (exactly as it was , culture , language , religion , names and so on) the roman conquest and it is here today except for the jews ?

[Byzantine Prince]

There were more factors that contributed to the loss of identity in cultures. Christianity for example.

I would say though that the nations that weren't "conquered" by the Romans were the Germanic tribes, the Parthians, and Irish(lol).

[Hurin_Rules]

If you accept that every culture, even Jewish culture, has changed considerably in the last 1500 years, then yes, in addition to those mentioned, you'd have to add the Slavic tribes, the Greeks and perhaps also the Palestinians (who some historians believe trace their ancestry to the Philistines and/or Phoenecians).

[caesar44]

If you accept that every culture, even Jewish culture, has changed considerably in the last 1500 years, then yes, in addition to those mentioned, you'd have to add the Slavic tribes, the Greeks and perhaps also the Palestinians (who some historians believe trace their ancestry to the Philistines and/or Phoenecians).

ok
but it is steal a jewish people
the people had the same names , the same writing etc and most of all the same nationality , same religion , same language , same god
now , the slavic tribes did not came as a whole under roman rule
the greeks of 146 bce to let say 300 ce are not the greeks of our days in many aspects
about the palestinians - i consider you really did not mean what you have said

[Byzantine Prince]

the greeks of 146 bce to let say 300 ce are not the greeks of our days in many aspects

What aspect? We have the same language and writing(its changed in very minor ways). The only one is Christianity but that's not really Rome's fault. Guess who's fault that was?

[Watchman]

The Parthians got overthrown by one of their subjects, the Sassanids, a fair while before Rome even went under. I don't think they count.

The Greeks spent about four centuries or thereabouts under Ottoman Turkish influence. And before that was Byzantium, which was neither Rome nor ancient Greece. 'Nuff said, really.

The Arabs and Beduins would probably be a pretty good bet, though. The Romans and Persians weren't too interested in fighting over sand, sand and some more sand with them, the Migrations didn't touch them at all, and they got generally left to their own devices. So past the standard cultural exchange you get with trade and raiding and the rest of the routine, and what the passage of time now does to everyone, they "survived" right fine.

[caesar44]

What aspect? We have the same language and writing(its changed in very minor ways). The only one is Christianity but that's not really Rome's fault. Guess who's fault that was?

christianity in greece changed all !!! and i don't want to demonstrate because it could make an offense

heil socrates , plato and aristotle (where are their successors ?)

[Sigurd]

What aspect? We have the same language and writing(its changed in very minor ways). The only one is Christianity but that's not really Rome's fault. Guess who's fault that was?

I would disagree; it was the Romans that were ultimately responsible for Christianity.
The small community Jesus and his few followers organized was never meant to be world wide. In fact they all knew they would be killed and that their Judean sect would fall.
The miraculous survival of the church in the 3rd century would directly be attributed to Constantine and his joint conspirators.
I think I’ll stop there; further details would overdo the offensiveness towards our Christian .org members.

Rome was responsible for the spreading of Christianity and hence conquered most of the pagan western world.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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is there is a nation that survived (exactly as it was , culture , language , religion , names and so on) the roman conquest and it is here today except for the jews ?

China. They survived Rome (being too far away) but culdn't survive Mao. (Re: Cultural Revolution)
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[RollingWave]

China. They survived Rome (being too far away) but culdn't survive Mao. (Re: Cultural Revolution)

heh i'm under the impression that he meant those that came into direct contact and rule with the Romans.

though yes China's culture/identity language can be traced continusingly for at the least 3000+ years, the writting system of today (well before the Communist simplified it... but it's still in use in Taiwan / Hong Kong anyway) came to be by the Han dynasty that started in around 200 b.c, and can be easily associated with the systems it evolved from (today's use grammer wise wis quiet different though... then again so is English from say... Shakespear's day)

DNA wise though you could trace but there is a huge mix from everywhere else...
Then again same could be said about Japan and many other places

[Watchman]

Hey, we Finns have been puttering around out here in the far north since late Stone Age (when, one suspects, we drove the Sámi farther north...) and didn't even get a written history before the Swedish conquests in the early second millenium. Does that count as "surviving the Romans", even if out only connection to them was indirect trade links (those pesky German tribes were in the way, y'see) ?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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DNA wise though

I never ever mean it. It's -IMO- just a watered-down racism. *shudders*
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