i hate chariots!!!

**Zorn** · 03-09-2005, 00:59

Whenever I play with charriots the only thing that really scares me are ballistas. They have the range to hit every chariot and kill with a single shot.
However, if you are using unit sizes above average I reccomend to mod the numbers of ballistas per unit. 2 Ballistas take a long long time to bring some 50 charriots down.

**Red Harvest** · 03-09-2005, 01:36

Egyptian chariots are tough to face because they have high mass, multiple hit points, a dangerous scythe attack, and they are fast, using a horse model that has the fast horse skeleton rather than the standard horse. This allows them to zip in and out causing havoc to your forces with ranged weapons, or smashing into vulnerable points. Historically, chariots were not quite so mobile as cavalry and had real trouble with anything other than smooth ground. (About the only real praise you will hear of them in the time period is Caesar praising the way the British celts used their light chariots.) Mass determines the penetrating quality in the game.

If you can ever bog them down they die quickly, and the are quite good at killing their own when under archer fire inside a city during a siege...I've seen them mow down many hundreds of their own before with the scythes, leaving only a few chariots and men for my forces to mop up.

**Kraxis** · 03-09-2005, 02:11

In my game they never tend to kill their own unless if they are running amok (modded that to all chariots). They knock people down but don't kill.
The best case of a unit of chariots running amok was when I pelted a unit of Pontic chariots with arrows until they ran amok. They took out almost an entire unit of Eastern Infantry (broke and ran), a unit of peltasts (broke and ran) and killed the general. About 200 dead enemies and a formation devastated.

**Yun Dog** · 03-09-2005, 02:43

Chariots - we hates them we hates them we hates them precious

Pharaoh Bowmen - I fear them, how many units have they returned to me with 1 or 2 men remaining - cavalry, spears, they cannot be killed - THEY ARE DEMONS

**Titus Livius** · 03-09-2005, 05:23

Actually, I think Cretan Archers have range equal to that of the Egyptian chariot archers. Try sending a family member to Crete or Asia Minor to pick up some mercenaries.

**lars573** · 03-09-2005, 06:53

Scythed chariots are easy to deal with, once you kill 3 chariots they run amok. Hillmen I've found are the best at overwhelming a chariot unit. With 4 units of hillmen in 1 battle I killed 2 Egyptian generals and 1 unit of chariot archers. But of course that was back when basic horse archers worked right.

**RollingWave** · 03-09-2005, 07:11

Egyptian onces are rough as they won't run amok... and if the terrain is right they will easily close in before arrows do much to them anyway.

Best is probably slow them down with mass infantries then mob them. age old tactics that never really fail