i hate chariots!!!

**Magraev** · 03-09-2005, 08:55

Elephants seem to work quite well for the Seleucids - followed up by infantry.

**The Stranger** · 03-09-2005, 10:02

Originally Posted by Magraev

Elephants seem to work quite well for the Seleucids - followed up by infantry.

**Blacknek** · 03-09-2005, 10:20

Playing the Egyptians I find my chariots quite vulnerable to cavalry-attacks. Even light cav will inflict enough damage/kills to my chariots to make them route. So you may use light-cav for flanking. They have enough in numbers and are maybe fast enough. So

and hope for the best.

Hope this works,
Blacknek

**Kraxis** · 03-09-2005, 11:34

Originally Posted by Blacknek

Playing the Egyptians I find my chariots quite vulnerable to cavalry-attacks. Even light cav will inflict enough damage/kills to my chariots to make them route. So you may use light-cav for flanking. They have enough in numbers and are maybe fast enough. So

and hope for the best.

Hope this works,
Blacknek

The problem with cavalry is that the chariots have a nasty tendency to kill any cavalryman that gets close. The factor that drops infantry kills cavalry. So chariots are possibly the best cavalrykillers out there.
The worst case has to be Chariot Archers as they can kill a number of pursuers before turning and butcher them. You have to catch them off guard to get them with cavalry.

**Old Celt** · 03-09-2005, 14:56

I'm playing as Numidia now, and have no heavy cavalry other than the general unit, and very little infantry of quality as it takes 2 turns to build the best Numidian infantry: Numidian Legionaries. The Egyptian chariot archers have been very tough to deal with.

After trying some costly tactics, I came up with an approach that works. I deploy 2 units of archers far forward of the rest of my troops and split so they can cover the approaches to my flanks that chariots love to exploit. I set these archers to use fire arrows and watch them carefully as the battle develops. About 50 yards behind these archers, I have 2 more units deployed in the same fashion. Another 50 yards, and I have the infantry line set with my best slinger unit in front of them. Just behind the line, there will be an experienced Numidian javelinmen unit. Then, if I have them available, 3 onagers, set to use fire, about 6 camel cavalry, 2 or 3 longshields and the general.

If chariots charge my front archers, the return fire begins from the second wave of archers and all 3 onagers. If they bum rush the archers with desert cav and their chariots, the front 2 archer units are pretty much toast, but the rear 2 survive, and you can countercharge with camels to neutralize all the Egyptian horse units. Since they will have little or no cavalry or chariots left after that, your remaining missiles can support the infantry, and your remaining cavalry can move out to the flanks to assist.

You have to be able to beat chariot units of any kind to decisively beat the Egyptians. That can be quite challenging without heavy cavalry or superior archers.

**A.Saturnus** · 03-09-2005, 21:50

I had some success with hitting them with cavalry right after they break through a infantry formation. I think the moment they turn they are most vulnerable.

**Watchman** · 03-09-2005, 23:14

Mounted javelineers weren't half bad either, if I recall correctly. If nothing else a swarm of them keeps the chariots preoccupied.

But by all that is holy, do not use the Cantabarian if you send horse javelins after the chariots. They do not bolt away fast enough in that and usually end up dying in scores when the chariots move forwards.