Has anyone tried "China: Total War" yet?

**Jacque Schtrapp** · 03-06-2005, 18:10

The new issue of PC Gamer makes special mention of the "China: Total War" mod that takes the three Parthian provinces and gives them to the Chinese as part of the Ts'in Empire's invasion of Asia Minor. Apparently there are a good mix of new (and re-done) units available to the Chinese including "morale sapping suicide squads." The mod is 46MB and requires patch 1.1. I was curious if anyone else has played this mod or knows anything else about it. The Stratcommander website is very well done and worth a look for thos who appreciate strategy titles even if you aren't interested in mods. This site is new to me, athough I am certain many of you fine folks already know all about it. Enjoy.

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**hung41584** · 03-06-2005, 19:04

chinese people suck. they never win any wars. how the hell did they even get into asia minor

**The Stranger** · 03-06-2005, 19:11

yes i did, but it sucked, cause of poor spelling and their units were way to strong.

**Brysk** · 03-06-2005, 23:26

Being Chinese, I could take offense to that, but the fact is that China was an incredibly strong military power 2000 years ago, and a lot more advanced. (China was using gun powder for military purposes during that time.), not to mention that China could amass 2 huge armies incredibly quickly, the first being a highly trained and well armed professional army, the second being a gargantuan auxilia force (Not to mention that rice had much more nutritional value than wheat, the amount of wheat required to support one person could support 7 people with the same amount of rice).

The Chinese aren't simple minded, after all, all those Sun Tzu quote's and the Art of War were all Chinese weren't they? Not to mention the fact that the Chinese still exist, the Roman Empire doesn't. (And they've had to face barbarian invasions as well as dynasty transitions). Though, because the Romans and Chinese haven't actually fought, this arguement is all moot.

**RollingWave** · 03-07-2005, 02:42

Errr no gunpowder was indeed invented and used in China first but it was not over 2000 years ago during the Qin... it was invented more like somehwere in the later part of the Tang
(which went from 618-907 a.d) and wide spread military use probably only came until the Northern Song dynasty which was around 900-1100 a.d

However with that said the Qin's at it's height would have wooped the Roman quiet easily (as the Romans were just starting their empire at this time... in late Repbulic it might be a more interesting comparason with the Han dynasty)

No need to take offense in other people's pure ignorace Byrsk. he knows abosalutely 0 about Chinese history anyway. like it was said in the intro of the Carthage campaign " they do not understand so they lie"

As for the mod though, have not tried it yet but i don't like the looks of it. for one thing the Qin probably didn't use phalanx that big (then again the greek phalanx is also bigger in game than historical evidance seem to suggest.. the Macedonian pikes were over twice as long as the greek once.. u certainly can't feel that in game.. Qin polearms should be around the length of Greek onces... usually 2m or so.

Then again, historical inaccuratcy is a lot less in RTW relatively compare to most other so called historical games... but it's still not hard to spot .