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    Interesting test! I look forward to see what happens if you up the lethality and shoot at spartans. Good luck figuring it out.
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    I tried 63 attack and 9 lethality vs. Spartans. First volley = 2 kills.

    I then tried cutting lethality to 0.5. First volley = 4 kills.

    Conclusion: The difference in kills was random variation against a 2 hit point unit (where two hits and kills must register on a single man in the first volley.) If the 9 lethality worked at all it would have killed at least a dozen spartans.

    They were mown down like wheat in subsequent volleys since almost all front rankers had lost their 1st hit point.
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    That downed that theory...
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    What about against a testudo? I know that randomly some guys seem to get hit, I bet this is based on chance, how well they are covered and so on. Would you mind testing that as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
    What about against a testudo? I know that randomly some guys seem to get hit, I bet this is based on chance, how well they are covered and so on. Would you mind testing that as well?
    I have no idea how to get the AI to form testudo... And if I let the AI be the archers it tends to charge my line...stupid AI. So vs. the AI I really can't perform a "standardized test."
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    Hmm... Yes that is a problem but I think you could persuade someone to help you in an MP test.
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    Did a little test myself, only to debunk or confirm the charging AI.

    Had a Legionary First Cohort against a unit of archers from Pontus. They did indeed close up dramatically, but when inside the pilumrange (and just outside the chargethreshold) they began to shoot.

    It appears that Testudo only grants the shieldbonus to the exposed top and sides, not any other more fictive bonus, like Open formation grants a point of armour. But then again I mostly saw the arrows hit the front or the men on the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Harvest
    I have no idea how to get the AI to form testudo... And if I let the AI be the archers it tends to charge my line...stupid AI. So vs. the AI I really can't perform a "standardized test."
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