Ok. Now I understand that SPQR isn't going to be balanced for multiplayer. BTW, the MP'ers you just wrote off are all 3 and 4 year verterans of Total War, and they were hoping to get SPQR accepted as the standard for major online tournaments. However, it's just not suitable in it's present form. They'll now proceed to make their own custom stat for MP. The recent discussions occured at www.totalwars.net.