Mundus Magnus. Large map for RTW.

**Trajen the 1st** · 03-17-2005, 01:25

Ya its his map! Let him realease it when he wants! Fight for your freedom!

**Zharakov** · 03-17-2005, 01:37

It says that this is an invalid MOD!

This is tyrany!

Has the western world gone mad?

It is his map, HE made it, HE suffered the long hours to make it, it is HIS creation, so shouldn't HE realese it when HE chooses?

**Trajen the 1st** · 03-17-2005, 01:42

Hold the phone. Kehlvan says that his mod contians stuff other EB members have made! And he detrributed them without there permission! I think if he just removes all of there owrk untill its just his he might be okey.

(MIGHT bieng a very strong factor in this.)

**Dead Moroz** · 03-17-2005, 10:55

Originally Posted by Trajen the 1st

I think if he just removes all of there owrk untill its just his he might be okey.

I'm afraid to do it I must rewrite all human history and greatly change the surface of the Earth.

**Duke John** · 03-17-2005, 12:38

After some PM exchange with Dead Moroz I believe that this is a mod made by Dead Moroz. He may have used research done by others, but history is not copyrighted by anyone, so there is no reason to prohibit this mod from being made public.

If I see sabotage like done at TWC (the link was not removed on its own) then people can expect a temporary ban from these forums.

Dead Moroz
Feel free to upload your mod to the Org so that it becomes available again.

**Bwian** · 03-17-2005, 14:22

Aside from this being a very nice piece of work ... this issue does raise some very interesting points.

If you work as part of a mod team, as I understand DM did, but subsequently leave, do you have to give up all rights to the work you did as part of the team?

What DM had done was to take the work away with him, and finish it off to his satisfaction. If the mod teams want to claim work done as 'the property of the mod not it's members' then that should be made clear at the outset. If that wasn't done, then you can't blame him for carrying on with the work.

Not mentioned here, are the conditions under which he stopped working for the Mod. Was he asked to stop work on anything intended as mod content? Was he asked to delete / hold until EB release etc.

If he WAS...then he has been a bit naughty, and deserves a bit of a 'slap'. If not..then he has done NOTHING WRONG. He certainly hasn't stolen the mod, isn't guilty of plagiarism ( a term not applicable here either....would be applicable if the lands were 'fantasy' but a bit trcky to apply to a factual map)

On top of all this, though, is the extremely dubious behaviour of 'The Mob'. In this country, there is the small matter of 'proof' that sits between accusation and conviction. Only Duke John seems to have gone to the trouble of finding any, and his findings seem to vindicate DM's right to release this. If someone proves to me that the Mod was pinched..I'll delete it. Until then, I am enjoying it in all it's detail.

**eadingas** · 03-17-2005, 15:05

Well, this is not really a matter of 'general principles of modding' rather than the fact that EB has its own strict internal rules on who owns what. They are made clear to anyone _in_ EB, we just don't announce them in public.