Quote Originally Posted by Gregoshi
You can chose to sit around and whine for weeks on end or you can roll up your sleeves and try to nail down this bug.
You are, of course, right Gregoshi. It would indeed be pointless if all the community had been doing was sitting about. The problem is, unfortunately, that many have expended a large amount of their time trying to nail down this bug. And to be honest, I think the efforts of the community were entirely successful, within the limits of what we can be expected to do. Beyond that, we need CA to come in and give us a hand.

IMHO, the community has demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that an issue exists. The sheer weight of evidence that something changes when a game is reloaded is simply staggering.

CA's "definitive" response means that they have extensively tested this issue, and found no fault. If this is indeed their final say on the matter, then it is entirely possible that the Expansion Pack will not resolve this issue. But this new response gives little or no concrete evidence to explain many of these observations.

The Shogun talks of a bell-curve. If we can demonstrate, statistically, that there are in fact two distinct Gaussian distributions (one for continuous play, one for reload), then perhaps CA will listen. We can but hope.

In any case, I imagine the TW community will continue its efforts to find a workaround.