Has anyone been to totalwar.com recently

**JimBob** · 03-31-2005, 20:42

Browning, luckily, for you at least, my computer came crashing down recently, forcing me to wipe everything and start fresh(who would thing that I would combine 'luckily' and any mention of reinstalling windows). So I had a 1.0 installation of RTW and tested the bug on 1.0 and 1.1 results follow:
Setup and rules: Imperial Campaign, No Advice, M/M, Manage All, M/M, Brutii, on start all cities to low tax rate, fog of war false, no accepting marriage, City of Phraaspa test subject
1.0 tests-
Start1-Senate Mission-Take Appollonia, 10 turn limit, 1 minor exotic unit reward.
Start1+1-Parthian Army(Arsaces leader, 5 ? units+bodygaurd) approach Phraaspa(3 turns hold, 3 unknown units, no walls). Save game Testing(1Phraaspa).
Start1+2.1-Parthian Army takes Phraaspa, qutii
Start1+2.2-relaod Parthian army bypasses Phraaspa.

Start2-Same as Start1.
Start2+1-Parthian Army(Arsaces leader, 5 ? units+bodygaurd) approach Phraaspa(3 turns hold, 3 unknown units, no walls).
Start2+2.1-Parthian army takes Phraaspa.
Start2+2.2-Did not save-false test.

Start3-Same as Start1 except reward=you will be greatly rewarded.
Start3+1-Marriage request, Parthian Army(Arsaces leader, 5 ? units+bodygaurd) approach Phraaspa(3 turns hold, 3 unknown units, no walls). Save game Testing(3Phraaspa).
Start3+2.1-Parthian Army takes Phraaspa, quit
Start3+2.2-reload Parthian army turns south

1.1 tests-
Start4-Same as Start1 except nothing
Start4+1-Parthian Army(Arsaces leader, 5 ? units+bodygaurd) approach Phraaspa(3 turns hold, 3 unknown units, no walls). Save game Test(4Phraaspa).
Start4+2.1-Parthian Army takes Phraaspa, quit
Start4+2.2-relaod Marriage Request, Army stops, Arcases disapperes.

Start5-Same as Start1 except reward=you will be greatly rewarded.
Start5+1-Parthian Army(Arsaces leader, 5 ? units+bodygaurd) approach Phraaspa(3 turns hold, 3 unknown units, no walls). Save game Test(5Phraaspa).
Start5+2.1-Parthian Army takes Phraaspa, quit
Start5+2.2-reload Parthian army stops in place.
I continued to see if Parthia would later take the city. At +5 turns Armenia took Phraaspa.

The bug has been around since 1.1 it seems, these tests are not complete enough to tell but I am unable to complete them, someone else could use this as a jumping off point. All turns and moves are documented in screenshots and I still have the save games.
Also I apologize for the spelling and grammer errors, this was quickly typed from notes in my own very strange form of shorthand, I will fix that later.

**Marcus Maxentius** · 03-31-2005, 21:08

Another big problem is that so many games are bought because of multiplayer. They might not think singleplayer is important because it doesn't create as much sales. If you notice the first patch was a multiplayer hotfix. You'd think that since singleplayer has so many problems that that would be their first concern.

**Craterus** · 03-31-2005, 21:12

I bought the game for the SP.. I didn't know the multiplayer was a reason customers bought the game

**tai4ji2x** · 03-31-2005, 23:09

Originally Posted by Craterus

I bought the game for the SP.. I didn't know the multiplayer was a reason customers bought the game

actually, online i had encountered numerous players that didn't even know a single-player campaign existed.

**Nelson** · 04-01-2005, 03:12

Originally Posted by Marcus Maxentius

Another big problem is that so many games are bought because of multiplayer. They might not think singleplayer is important because it doesn't create as much sales. If you notice the first patch was a multiplayer hotfix. You'd think that since singleplayer has so many problems that that would be their first concern.

If I were to call MP the tip of the Total War iceberg I would be guilty of overstating my case. MP folks are vocal and, in forums at least, apparently numerous. But they represent a tiny fraction of Total War sales. Most buyers don't bother to go to forums and talk about games, prefering to spend that time actually playing them!

Be warned that someone will come in here soon and dispute this but don't you believe 'em!

**Aurelius** · 04-01-2005, 03:31

Thanks, Nelson. I really mean that. I'm honestly not sure that the great patrons of the community that get so angry with us realize the impossible situation that we signed up for. At one point, every time I signed on to the .com there were over 400 people laying down posts.

I felt like there were only 40 of us, rapiers drawn, a la three musketeers...

All for one, and one for all against the tsunami.

And then some dude signs on, and in 72 hours is calling me a fascist. I ran my own board for a while, after the purge, so that we could all have 100% freedom, but I couldn't afford to maintain it. And in 8 months, I closed zero threads. Admonished, yeah, scolded, yeah, but pressed the admin buttons? Nope.

Friendship. It isn't just for breakfast anymore.

EDIT: Thanks for the asterisk, Wicked. I guess we'll see how many patrons read whole threads. Did anyone else make two or three good pals on the .com? Look at your address book, mates. Look at your address book. It isn't about selling shares. It's about sharing tales.

**Mablung** · 04-01-2005, 03:56

A lot of you guys are being far too harsh on the .com mods, they give up their own time to try and keep the place in some sort of order. It is not their fault there is a lot of moderating, there is a hell of a lot of crap posted there!
The problem is the maturity level seems to have dropped markedly since the influx of new patrons thanks to Rome. When there is a lower maturity level of course there is going to be more moderating, if it was less leniant new patrons would be less likely to join as it would be hell.

Aur - have to say I have made some good mates, enjoyed having a chat to SP, Stoney, Zelda, Massa and many others. Too bad chat was taken away, still talk to some of the guys. Also, it is always good to catch up with some of the patrons that don't post over at .com anymore -- got to thank Duck and for his pond.

**Aurelius** · 04-01-2005, 04:15

So... post just an asterisk.

I'm serious. I'm not gonna rope in 6700 .com lemmings to back me up. I could, but I'm not gonna do that.

I think that the .com has been a lot more important to far more people than would first appear.

That's why we spend so much time... just trying. It has nothing to do with any nefarious plot. The very idea of one site against another is ridiculous, and I for one refuse to have anything to do with it.

**Browning** · 04-01-2005, 10:49

...is not to load at all.

Wait, don't bash me yet, I am also your 1-hour-every-second-evening type of guy.

And I live in Germany, which means I pay like 4 times more for the electricity than it actually costs, thus I am unwilling to leave my comp permanently on.

A possible solution, which I have just read on the .com forum, would be to HIBERNATE your comp. Basically, it writes the complete memory state onto your harddisk and then turns off. Upon start, the memory will be loaded, and you find yourself in the middle of your R:TW campaign without loading the savegame, if everything works.

I suspect, one could then copy and rename the hiberfil.sys file (and most probably the swap file?) and use it as a kind of savegame substitute. This way you avoid beeing limited to playing only one campaign on your computer. On my computer, my son plays his also, thus a straightforward solution is not the one for me...

I will test it over weekend... perhaps someone of you can do it even earlier.